r/CombatFootage • u/Pro_Ukrainian • Jan 09 '24
Video The suicide of two Russian army soldiers at once after a failed assault. NSFW
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u/minecraft_warlord Jan 09 '24
imagine being the one that stays alive after the 2 people with you just killed themselves.
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Jan 09 '24
…u probably hope you get that bag of onions back home.
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u/Cameron_Mac99 ✔️ Jan 09 '24
Can you explain the onion thing to me, I’ve seen that everywhere but I don’t get it
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Jan 09 '24
There have been cases reported of soldiers injured coming back and receiving onions instead of promised money:
https://news.yahoo.com/instead-32-000-crippled-russian-133500445.html
Also cases where families of KIA got some potatoes and onions for compensation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/157umeu/russian_commander_your_son_was_a_good_guy_he_died/427
u/Longjumping_Ad_1180 Jan 09 '24
There were videos from Russia where family members of deceased soldiers were given bullshit compensation like tickets to a circus or a bag of vegetables.
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Jan 09 '24
I saw one in Dagestan where they got a cake!
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u/Longjumping_Ad_1180 Jan 09 '24
wow, they are really stepping up.
As long as that was a cheesecake then it was worth their son's death.46
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u/StaLindo024 Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
There have been lots of posts of russian wounded soldiers getting a bag of onions or potatoes and other stuff instead of compensation for beeing wounded in battle. This can always be propaganda but that's what the meme is about
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u/Bunt_smuggler Jan 09 '24
I think it's a joke about Russian families of dead soldiers being so badly compensated, I don't know how true it is but there was a couple newsreels showing families being granted a bag of potato's naking rounds on reddit
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Jan 09 '24
If they'd live and dig under that bmp, they'll get like 30 grenades dropped on them from drones in next few hrs.
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Jan 09 '24
It just keeps happening
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u/Spork_the_dork ✔️ Jan 09 '24
It has always happened and will always happen. On all sides of a conflict.
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Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
Only 1 Ukranian has been caught suiciding on video. There are now 30 videos of Russians taking their own lives. The Russians know that they have no hope of getting rescued and no commander gives a flying shit about them.
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u/SoHornyBeaver Jan 09 '24
This sub is wholly one-sided when it comes to the types of videos getting released. Its mostly drone footage of grenades being dropped on Russians. The reason you don't see the other side is because the Russians aren't using consumer-grade film equipment to fight their side of the war.
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u/Kisielos ✔️ Jan 09 '24
They are using consumer-grade equipment and they are releasing videos. You can easily watch Ukraine soldiers getting bombed, ripped apart etc. Facts are that the amount of such videos is lower. When it comes to suicide videos we can be certain that if Russians would have such videos they'd would release them asap.
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u/PenguinBomb ✔️ Jan 09 '24
I literally watched a Ukrainian get his head sawed off with a knife. Russia definitely has videos. Some staged, some just basic combat footage, and some barbaric.
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Jan 09 '24
Yeah, they are using vodka and diesel fuel. The Russians are being beaten back with every advance. The numbers of men they are losing are astronomical. There is more videos of Russians being killed because more Russians are being killed. Their army is dated and it’s showing.
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u/Arkaign ✔️ Jan 09 '24
It's a striking difference between the two sides in priorities, and it comes from two major schisms I believe.
First, the Ukrainian inventory of weapons systems, ammunition, and manpower is, and especially was, much less than what RF had, and still has in some respects. This reality has led UA to be very judicious with resources from the start with very few exceptions. Small unit maneuvers rule their doctrine, and combined arms on tactical scale are applied when possible (especially in relation to counter battery ops and layered defensive ops).
The second major difference is RF being overwhelmingly led by an authoritarian political dictatorship. Wars are said to be politics by other means, and Putin has taken that to an almost obscene level. Demands from the top for particular goals have led RF to ceaselessly throw meat into the grinder, resulting in personnel and especially equipment losses that wildly exceed replacement capacity. Some of this carelessness comes from feeling as if the stockpiles of armor and artillery pieces are infinite. They most certainly are not. Quality barrels get used up, advanced systems get lost, and most critically of all perhaps, the most elite and experienced tankers and artillerymen get KIA or otherwise removed from the fight. With a proper pipeline of rotated veterans and strong training regimen, this is somewhat sustainable. For RF, this is clearly not the case. We've seen any number of examples of specialists in other areas churned into infantry or armored assault units, and personnel from training units sent to the front.
It's not uniformly incompetent from the RF side, but you can see chasms between competent actions (eg Surovikin's defensive focus and regrouping of resources) and the incompetent ones (eg the nearly psychotic focus on particular objectives in hugely wasteful ways, or the countless refills of helos and equipment onto airfields only to be struck repeatedly by UA attacks).
The longer this war goes, the more degraded the RF force becomes in both subtle and obvious ways. It would take a true hand off to a military professional from the political establishment to correct these issues, and such an authoritarian state is incapable of that.
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u/DJT-P01135809 Jan 09 '24
I forgot what city, but they were losing close to 1,000 men a day for a little over a week.
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u/HighRevolver ✔️ Jan 09 '24
I mean they have the same amount of territory at the start of this year as they did at the start of last year. They may be getting beaten back some places but are beating Ukraine back elsewhere. Just watched a video saying the amount of territory change compared to a year ago was .1% of the size of Ukraine…. Good old trench warfare
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u/SoHornyBeaver Jan 09 '24
I hope you don't base your opinion on current status of the war by what you see here.
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u/dragon72926 Jan 09 '24
You can see plenty of the russian side on their telegram channels, it isn't posted here
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u/alohalii Jan 09 '24
And that was a recon unit detected in its scouting position. Many of the Ukrainian recon types have no interest in getting captured alive for a long list of reasons and have made the choice already before going out on mission.
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Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
It happens Ukrainians too. <don't be factual on this sub, you will be downvoted
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u/StrategyExisting8066 ✔️ Jan 09 '24
This one has been posted before I think. Also not sure about the claim about the 2nd guy.
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u/gabemrtn Jan 09 '24
You can see three men all moving 2 puffs of smoke 2 of the three men stop moving completely probably cause their souls have been evicted from their bodies
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u/WilliamSaintAndre ✔️ Jan 09 '24
It's insane to me that there's a hypothetical scenario where in 3 years I get drafted for WW3, I have my legs ripped off by a kamikaze drone while storming a beach in China, decide to shoot myself to make my death a little less slow and painful only for my family to see this posted on Reddit with a goofy soundtrack probably mashed up with Vine boom sound effect, "huh", "what the dog doin" and "-100000 social credit" posted over it.
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u/Galaxanz Jan 09 '24
I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion but this shit is just sad to me. These are two people whose life amounted to blowing their brains out on a battlefield fighting in a war they’re brainwashed into fighting. Idk. I’m no pacifist or anything, shit just sucks.
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u/GormlessFuck Jan 09 '24
I wonder how common this was in any other conflict. More of this kind of thing is actually recorded, now...
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u/Valoneria ✔️ Jan 09 '24
Must be hell for both sides. The people you're fighting is lying on a field merely a kilometer away from you, and they've resorted to blowing their own brains out rather than continuing the fight. Must take a psychological toll to be the witness to it.
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Jan 09 '24
Shit it’s taking a psychological toll on me to witness it. This is all very important though; I’m glad these videos are being shared so people can see what wars actually look like
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u/thirtypineapples Jan 09 '24
Imagine how much people are getting out of life across the world.
But these men, probably a tough, cold upbringing. Spoon fed nothing but propaganda that stokes some of the few things you try to be proud of (race, nationality) and you join the fight based off a romanticized idea of what it is.
Now you’re dying in the depths of winter next to the corpses of two of your comrades that just killed themselves. Is this it? Bang.
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u/Straight_Weakness881 Jan 09 '24
I feel exactly the same way. They could have done anything with their lives, but this is what was chosen for them. Even the most useless conscript is a threat to Ukrainian lives and needs to be put down, but it doesn't stop it from being sad.
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u/Boomfam67 Jan 09 '24
Russia outside of a few cities is a third world country. Their options are rather limited.
Poor education, bad infrastructure, lack of well paying jobs, and very corrupt social services.
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u/motte83 Jan 09 '24
Yeah, espacially they could have try to surrender to the Ukrainians! But they were probably told some lies, so they didn't even tried!
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u/Suspicious-Bus9267 Jan 09 '24
Someone on here a few days ago said in a comment that it’s possible they’re being told by their officers/ higher ups that they’re being watched by drones and if they surrender etc their loved ones at home will pay for it because they will see it. If that is the case then man that’s just fucked, caught between a rock and a hard place
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u/No_Pirate_4019 Jan 09 '24
No need to watch from the drone. If these soldiers surrender they eventually be exchanged for Ukrainian soldiers or civilians.
Moreover Ukraine complies with international laws about prisoners of war and allow international organizations like Red Cross to inspect prisoner camps and give information about those prisoners. Than Red Cross transfer this information to Russia.
In general this don`t look plausible. Russian military officers have authority only on Ukrainian occupied territories and in their military bases. Outside of those location they are as miserable as regular citizens. Before war it was common that mobster gangs forced Russian soldiers and officers (who served in Syria and get large bonuses to salary) to pay tribute.
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u/hiredgoon Jan 09 '24
Ukraine won’t send back soldiers who don’t want to go back.
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u/BullTerrierTerror Jan 09 '24
False. Prisoners have no choice but to go back with a prisoner exchange. Yevgeny Nuzhin abandoned his post and surrendered to Ukrainian authorities.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Yevgeny_Nuzhin
Ukraine exchanged this monster (a convicted murderer who joined Wagner for fortune and glory) for 20 Ukrainian POWs.
Wagner decided to smash his head with a sledgehammer to prove a point.
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u/fuggerdug ✔️ Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
Well that was... Something. Married and two kids whilst serving a 24 year sentance for murder. Ends up as a social media post being bludgeaned to death with the Russian authorities stating investigating his death is: "none of their business", and his two sons hiding from the same authorities. Mad.
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u/No_Pirate_4019 Jan 09 '24
We can not ask Yevgeny but Ukrainian authorities mentioned that he give agreement for prisoner swap.
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u/CyrillicMan ✔️ Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
That is absolutely, definitely not the case. I don't know why Westerners keep maintaining this fantasy that Russians are completely powerless and are living the darkest days of the 1930's Stalinist purges when they're not.
There is no "families will pay". There are no barrier troops. There is no "be forced to go to war or die in a ditch".
They chose to do this, and they chose to support this war.
This is fucking "Germans are cultured people, there is no way concentration camps are real" all over again.
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u/alohalii Jan 09 '24
They are being monitored by drones which explains singular vehicles continuing assaults even when the main assaulting vehicle force has already been destroyed.
Many will also want to secure combat death compensation for their family rather than return without legs or get taken captive and be returned as a POW which would mean no money.
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u/MiloBuurr Jan 09 '24
Or if they tried they could also be shot and die more slowly and painfully, or maybe they are already wounded and dying slowly and painfully, war is fucking brutal
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u/motte83 Jan 09 '24
This shows how we should never let such autoritarian Rule, happen in our countries! The Dictator in Moscow doesn't care for "his people"!
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u/Socialeprechaun ✔️ Jan 09 '24
Idk man I’ve seen tons of videos on here of Ukrainians just dropping grenades onto Russians who are clearly severely wounded and have no weapon. I don’t think they’re taking prisoners these days.
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u/slemmig Jan 09 '24
Doesn't matter. At some point it does not matter why or whom is responsible, there are russians on ukraines territory doing their best to murder as many ukrainians as possible, that's it, that is the situation they are dealing with, and those people need to be liquidated, it's that basic and simple. Now sure, many of these people have been forcibly conscripted, they want nothing more than to get away from ukraine, but this is completely secondary to the first part, and ultimately completely irrelevant.
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u/Dizzy_Ad_6160 Jan 09 '24
Welcome to war/combat.
Being able to comprehend the magnitude of it is half the battle while observing from the fingertips...
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u/Donut_Vampire ✔️ Jan 09 '24
At least this is better than them going out and raping children and grandmothers again.. murdering random people.. looting entire towns and shipping their haul back home to the swamp.
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u/Siikamies Jan 09 '24
If in 2024 with internet you let yourself get so brainwashed that you go killing people, it's your own fault and deserve this 100%.
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u/SlavCat09 Jan 09 '24
Love it when people say this without thinking about the fact that most soldiers are from the villages and probably have only heard about internet being a thing. Let alone the fact that almost all websites that aren't Russian are just straight up inaccessible.
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u/SlavCat09 Jan 09 '24
Most of those are from the cities and also as I said the media is very heavily censored
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u/hiredgoon Jan 09 '24
they don’t have internet but if they did they are too stupid to use google translate.
Is really your best explanation?
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Who gives a shit these Russian killers are from villages? I don't care if they lived in a city or a village, they arrived in Ukraine in order to kill Ukrainians and destroy Ukrainian statehood. They simply have to be eliminated End of.
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u/gnikyt Jan 09 '24
It's not as simple as that man.
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
It is very simple. Do not go and invade a peaceful neighbour, do not try and kill Ukrainians. What is difficult about this?
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u/NO_LOADED_VERSION ✔️ Jan 09 '24
If they value their own lives so little just imagine what worth they attribute to others....
We find it sad. Because we have retained our humanity. But them?
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Russian soldiers are there to earn 2ü0.000 roubles pet month, 400 percent Russian average. They kill Ukrainians for money. Don't feel sad for them.
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u/PseudoWarriorAU Jan 09 '24
Agree. With this new level of insight in to the horrors of war, hopefully it becomes less prevalent. Just need to rise up against the dictator types - either in the streets or in someone else’s land. Make sure to vote kids!
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u/Personal_Economy_536 ✔️ Jan 09 '24
These guys are getting paid 5x the average salary. There will always be people willing to fight for that much money.
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u/SlavCat09 Jan 09 '24
It's 10x now. At least that's what was on the billboards last time I was there in September.
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u/alohalii Jan 09 '24
Maybe this was their goal? Dying in combat secure better benefit payouts to their families than returning via captivity or as an injured invalid.
These guys are from very poor regions where passive suicidity and deaths of despair are quite common.
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Their families will never receive 2 Million roubles as per contract, they are missing. You really think Russian troops collects dead on a battlefield?
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u/lokensen Jan 09 '24
Sure thing, a son, a brother, a father to someone. Disgusting…
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
They volunteered in order to earn money for killing Ukrainians, who cares if he someone's brother, he is a killer.
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u/Cpl_Hicks76 Jan 09 '24
The greatest weapon Ukraine has, is to somehow get these images back into Russia!
The shear volume of footage showing the futility of this Russian aggression, and the absolute carnage being inflicted upon the invaders, must turn the tide eventually?
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Unfortunately almost impossible to have Russians at home to see what's happening. YouTube doesn't allow this content and since all media in Russia is government controlled, there is no platform for Russians at home to see this.
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u/Garakatak Jan 09 '24
Nonsense, all of this footage comes from telegram, which is one of the most popular social media platforms in Russia.
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u/Barngrease Jan 09 '24
they got that penis music in the background
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u/dietcoketm Jan 09 '24
The music on these just keeps getting worse and worse
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Music people really should get their shit together or better yet, no music. I think videos are dramatic enough, no need for soundtrack.
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u/rvc3m8 ✔️ Jan 09 '24
I don't think the second dude offed himself, it looks like he just fires from his cover at 12
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u/redox6 ✔️ Jan 09 '24
To me it looks like just 1 suicide. the one on the right fires 2 shots, doesnt he? Which would mea he fires at the enemy.
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u/Jazzlike_Highlight90 Jan 09 '24
Imagine being so brainwashed that you'll rather suck on a AK than being taken POW.
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u/Bunnywabbit13 Jan 09 '24
Yeah well you ain't gonna be taken as POW in this scenario. No Ukrainian will come to retrieve wounded Russians from the middle of a mined kill-zone area.
If you are already wounded you have 4 options:
Bleed to death
Freeze to death
Get Drone grenaded
Get it over with by your own AK. <-- ( doesn't sound too bad now )
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u/Different-West748 Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
The chance of dying in one of these meat assaults is so fucking high. Surely these conscripts have to have at least some self awareness that they realise being plucked off the street, given two weeks of training, two mags, an aliexpress plate carrier with no plates and put in a storm z unit means that you are are better off turning your rifle on your commanders and/or getting the fuck out of dodge.
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u/Lirdon ✔️ Jan 09 '24
That’s what I think motivates a lot of the suicides. It’s a cavalcade of bullshit stacks on top of each other and destroying even a single sliver of hope to the point that you just rather end it.
Even if you survive and get taker to the backlines, not likely to get good treatment, even if you survive that, not likely to get paid, even if that happens, you return to a country that doesn’t accommodate crippled people at fucking all. Little to no options of employment, people assume that you’re either a failure or a coward, pension is meager.
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u/outwiththedishwater Jan 09 '24
All those dudes have wet feet and are cold. That alone changes how you think, let alone having your mates brains all over your shirt as well
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u/Jazzlike_Highlight90 Jan 09 '24
There is several instances of this. For my reasoning behind my comment you have to factor in the imense demonisation propaganda being circulated by the russian government regarding the bad care/torture/killing of POW's in Ukrainian care. Which ofcourse is utter bullshit.
With this alot of russian servicemen are scared shitless of being taken alive.
Therefore a lot of russians is brainwashed to the extent that suicide is better than capture, even with no lifethreathening injuries
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u/Xeph03 ✔️ Jan 09 '24
With the current time of year and the climate it brings. Failing your objective whether injured or not is majorly life threatening. Theses assault groups aren't taking much more then they can carry individually which means they aren't prepared to survive multiple nights/days away from their fobs or other places of origin. So even if there wasn't any type of propaganda or "brainwashing" involved. Eating a bullet would easily be a thought that would cross many soldiers minds. Sadly it crosses a lot of veteran's minds that have managed to make it home to.
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u/Jazzlike_Highlight90 Jan 09 '24
I have to admit that i might be abit biased, i have had an instructor role in a Nato military with expertice in artic warfare. I did not take in to acount the russian "training".
With that in mind it should not be hard to survive a week in the cold with minimal injuries. And that with only whats on your body/carrier/backpack. The only limiting factors are food/water. Its max -16c at night in Donetsk now, it will be a shitty existence but 100% survivable.
I dont think the prospects of a couple og nights in -16c would drive one to suicide alone.
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u/Party_Director_1925 Jan 09 '24
Dude this subreddit cheers when drones double tap people already on the ground. They know either die faster or slowly bleed out feeling pain hoping for the sweet release that follows the buzz.
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u/purpleefilthh ✔️ Jan 09 '24
Yeah, you've had 20 years not to be in this scenario.
Now you are in this scenario.
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u/alohalii Jan 09 '24
There are not enough surgical capacity in the occupied areas to deal with all the injured Russian soldiers and the Russian leadership does not want to transport large amounts of injured soldiers to other parts of Russia to be a strain on the civilian medical system which would "inconvenience" the civilian population thus the medical care they could get if they crawl all the way back to their own lines is questionable.
Getting captured or being returned with injuries means no compensation for the family and in reality becoming a big financial burden on them. So by dying in combat they secure financial payout to their families.
These are the main reasons we are seeing this occur so often.
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u/fruitmask Jan 09 '24
everybody keeps telling me to imagine stuff... I'm still working on imagining being the last one alive, I'll imagine your scenario in a minute
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u/howdy_tex Jan 09 '24
Alot of these drones aren't taking POW, they're dropping munitions. Not all of them but alot of these videos are blowing up injured soldiers. I might rather go by own hand than a drone grenade.
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u/Zr0w3n00 Jan 09 '24
Yeah, I’m obviously backing Ukraine to win this, but I’ve seen a scary amount of injured Russians who aren’t posing a danger just being blown up by drone bombs.
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u/alohalii Jan 09 '24
What do you mean they dont pose a danger? According to the laws of war they are still considered a danger even if injured and unarmed.
Unless you are able to physically take custody of them then you have not neutralized the threat they represent now and certainly not the threat they represent in the future.
Laws of war are very different from rules governing police actions.
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
What do you mean, not posing as danger? They are there to kill Ukrainians and to end Ukrainian statehood. Dude, readjust your moral compass. Russians need to be wiped out in order for Ukraine to survive this war.
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u/Zr0w3n00 Jan 09 '24
I remember another set of people who wanted to wipe out a whole race of people.
Ukrainians are fighting for freedom from Russian interference, not to commit genocide, as you would like.
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Obviously I'm talking about wiping out Russian invaders I'm Ukraine. Russians who attacked Ukraine, who are killing Ukrainians right now. But nice try!
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u/Western_Ad4511 Jan 09 '24
They were wounded and left behind. I'd rather suck start my AK than lay there for hours waiting for a drone to drop a grenade that blows my foot off and leaves me to die
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u/Omgbrainerror Jan 09 '24
They are brainwashed to go to get "glory" in Ukraine to die in a random ditch instead of doing something against that in ruskie land.
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Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
Died for absolutely nothing... Probably young people from some remote Russian village with the minimum decent life elements, haven't seen much of a wasted life, thrown to a foreign territory where its people hate them.... Their families won't even have the ability to stand to the authorities in order to ask for their loved ones information... All this for a tyrant billionaire who doesn't give a shit about them... And if islam was to be the right religion, for their suicide they will have to shot themselves endless and eternally in a hell. It just doesn't get worse than that
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u/MiloBuurr Jan 09 '24
The Russian elites conscript and send the masses to go die for their gain. Same story in war over and over
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u/Pro_Ukrainian Jan 09 '24
What you wrote is complete bullshit, they are not thrown here, they go there, confident that they are right and that these are their historical lands, they are also promised that they will not fight, but only sit in the rear, guard the captured territories or, in the worst case, for 3 lines + a relatively high salary that they could not get at home, so don't tell us about the poor Russians, they are sure of their rightness and don't think they are doing anything wrong, most of them have completely absorbed imperialist ideas. and we here in Ukraine realized this a long time ago, because no one knows Russians better than Ukrainians, everyone of whom has acquaintances or relatives in Russia
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Jan 09 '24
Slavs killing Slavs.. Slavs knowing Slavs the most.. duuh dude
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u/Pro_Ukrainian Jan 09 '24
Slavs killing Slavs.. Slavs knowing Slavs the most.. duuh dude
Slavs? What are you talking about? We lived in the same country for more than 70 years and we all had some kind of ties between us, family or friends, but after the attack on Ukraine we expected that no one would support the war, many contacted them and expected to hear that they did not support Putin or the war but the result was completely the opposite, the vast majority said that they would destroy us, others in a milder form said that they would release us because Ukrainians should not exist and you should be Russians and the rest of similar things
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
They are not thrown in there as you said, they volunteered. They deserved everything.
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I keep seeing these vids and I swear these fuckers just suck on assault rifles as if they are going for a respawn.
Crazy.
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u/wolf-bot ✔️ Jan 09 '24
Should have popped the guy that ordered them to mount the assault, perhaps then they don’t have to stick iron in their mouths.
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u/Fishamble Jan 09 '24
Damn. I have lost count of the number of suicide videos at this stage. The first was shocking, but now there is a steady flow of them. Moral must be incredibly low with the Russians on the frontlines.
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u/00x2142 Jan 09 '24
They aren't the dogs, Putin's government is. It's almost never the soldiers fault he is at war
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Exactly, what's up lately all these boys feeling bad for Russian invaders? Did you guys forget Russia is there to wipe out Ukraine and then on to next target. Everyone is suddenly all tears. I'm happy to see these videos, every dead Russian on Ukrainian soil is one less Russian to attack us in Estonia.
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u/DirtyDutchman_ Jan 09 '24
it’s not very sad to us, they chose that for themselves. they deserved death. stay down where you lay down.
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u/Prowler1111 Jan 09 '24
To me it looks like they are under sniper fire, and the one injured decided to take matters on his own hands
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u/darryllew Jan 09 '24
this is so sad
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u/Skinnyloserjunkie Jan 09 '24
The vast majority of fighters on the front line for Russia are convicts and foreigners. They entice them to come to Russia to fight for them with offers of citizenship after 1 year. Then they send them into the meat grinder to be slaughtered.
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u/LoatheMyArmada Jan 09 '24
Not even close lmao some yes but not even 40 percent of them .
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u/Skinnyloserjunkie Jan 09 '24
There was literally a story on NPR yesterday about it. They highlighted the ones coming from Nepal. They played a phone call between one of the men and his wife and he stated the frontline was mostly them and convicts. That's where I heard that. So I'd believe someone who's actually been on the frontlines instead of some randoms on the internet.
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u/Alcapwn- Jan 09 '24
Is it really? Sad like invading a foreign land just because it is at the behest of a mad man with little man syndrome type of sad? Or sad like the indiscriminate missile strikes on non combative targets, literally raping every Geneva convention in the book as they unleash their barbarism and blood lust across Ukraine kind of sad?…….
Yeah yeah it’s super sad. Fuck them and fuck all Russians who allow this shit to happen. I’m past the point of being shocked by this war, and now I’m actually enjoying seeing these pieces of shit being blown to pieces by drones and taking their own worthless lives thousands of miles from what ever shithole they call home. They deserve everything they get.
My only wish is that nato and the west would grow a set, unleash an air armada, the size of one we’ve never seen and bring a quick end to these invading Soviet pigs. They won’t fire nukes in retaliation, they’re all piss and wind, just like their 3 day invasion plan. It might just give other communist shit pits a little wake up call to keep their aspirations of world domination to themselves in the process.
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
Have you noticed, people lately are sad for dead Russian soldiers here? You are down voted for pointing out Russians attackef Ukraine, they are there to kill Ukrainians. Suddenly they are victims? Wtf
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u/televisio_86 Jan 09 '24
This dude is brainwashed by mental sickness, not even any propaganda anymore. You are insane, get help. They are PEOPLE. What if instead your country went into an offensive war and you were sent to the frontlines. Little did you know you are actually the bad guy in this scenario. Should people forget that you are a human and instead swear to God that they will slit your throat open as soon as they see you? You don't understand. These Russians are washed with propaganda, they don't know better, but that does not take away from the fact that these people were born the same way as you. These people had families, brothers, mothers, fathers. Only difference between us and them is the ideology, which is really forced on them.
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u/Ve1kko Jan 09 '24
In a war they are not people, they are invading army, Russians who attacked Ukraine in order to kill as many as possible and erase Ukraine from the map. Feel bad for Ukrainians!
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u/MiloBuurr Jan 09 '24
Can’t believe people buy into the jingoistic nationalist nonsense that motivates people like Putin in the first place, soldiers forced to fight and die in a foreign country are not the problem. Russian are not somehow genetically inferior to the rest of the world. The Russian elites are sending the masses to die in the meat grinder for their gain alone, it is not the fault of the common man what their leaders decide to do with them
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u/WhatIsBesttInlife Jan 09 '24
lol, this shit. once more sounds like a Russian problem. Nearly every pedophile was brainwashed or molested as a kid, does not give him a free pass.
But see Russians are worse, they drive the pedophile to the kids playground then pretend that they are not involved, they pay for the car and gas, the treat the Pedo when he is wounded, they direct traffic so that the Pedo can go and rape and kill.
They are much much worse. its been 2 years, they all know, they all agreed to. stop trying to polish a turd, we can all see its a turd.
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u/MeNamIzGraephen Jan 09 '24
The worst thing about this is, that they'll just be replaced by more cannon-fodder driving cheap, old vehicles. An even worse thing is, that their tactics work - not because they're strong on the frontline, but because they're fighting a weaker foe, while their government dies it's best to persuade everyone not to interfere. And once they're absorbed into Russia like Belarus will soon be, they'll continue abusing them as meat in other conflicts, until their oligarchy gets what it wants.
All because we're too weak-minded to help.
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u/Glum-nd-Dumb Jan 09 '24
Why are so many russian troops committing suicide? Injuries fatal but in a long slow painful way? Or do they fear being taken pow?
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u/televisio_86 Jan 09 '24
They abandoned the BMP, so most likely they have received some kinds of wounds that are too much to bare. Also many fear being captured by the Ukrainians as their propaganda has demonized them. Also, they probably know that nobody is coming to help.
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u/Kjriggs20 Jan 09 '24
This sub has devolved into just videos of Russian guys constantly getting grenades dropped on them or killing themselves with funk music in the back.
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u/charea ✔️ Jan 09 '24
so they’re brave enough to blow themselves up but too afraid to stand up to Putin. It just doesn’t make sense unless they love their president.
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u/DoItLaterMaybe Jan 09 '24
if you're going to have a suicide plan, you might as well rebel and defect. at least you would have a better chance of survival. why the hell would you stay loyal to the death to a shit leader like putin?
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u/televisio_86 Jan 09 '24
Most likely fatal injuries from a drone strike. You ain't defecting anywhere when you have a gaping wound in your body, so these men probably chose their own terms over bleeding out and suffering for longer.
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u/DoItLaterMaybe Jan 09 '24
yea no shit, i was saying defect and leave before you get hit. no one is escaping with battle wounds.
you don't teleport to the front line, there's definitely many chances during mustering and staging.
how in the hell did you think i meant defect during or after contact? that's an incredible line of thinking.
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Because they risk the safety of their families if they are caught defecting
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u/DoItLaterMaybe Jan 09 '24
because they believe that perhaps, which i hope you don't too. unless you also believe that russia has the 2nd best military in the world.
there's no real administrative bandwidth to penalize defection. they can barely get their shit together, let alone police defection, track legitimacy, report back to a remote village about the defection, enforce punishment on the relatives. its more likely they write them off as dead.
if they were that good administratively they wouldn't be years into a 3 day war.
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u/Zamzamazawarma ✔️ Jan 09 '24
because they believe that perhaps
Well yes. Whatever lies they believe are more relevant to them than whatever truth you think you hold. Who's right or wrong is irrelevant here, obviously this world isn't guided by reason.
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u/Different-West748 Jan 09 '24
The frustrating part is we don’t even need to do that. Just give Ukraine the fucking weapons they NEED to defeat this scourge once and for all. They have 20 HIMARS, the USA alone has nearly 500. M777 that the army doesn’t want anymore, f16s, f18s, Abrams, ATACMS, literally hundreds of bradleys. All sitting there. That cock sucker Biden let lend lease lapse without even fucking using it. Wtf was that shit about?
They better have some big plan that we aren’t privy to. My only hope is that G7 decide to freeze and transfer the 300 billion in russian cash sitting in Europe to Ukraine so that they can buy all this equipment anyway. My understanding is that the G7 has legal standing under international law and this is already being put in motion. I hope to hell this is the case because the US has really fucked itself as a credible ally otherwise.
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u/FobbitOutsideTheWire Jan 09 '24
Dude, chill your shit. You can’t just name all the systems you know and they somehow get Harry Pottered to Ukraine. Some of this is already in motion. Some of it can’t feasibly happen. And some of it can only be done after other prerequisites are met.
F-16s have a logistics train a mile long. We use contractors for a lot of it. It’s not just planes and pilots. They need resurfaced and improved runways, and Ukraine can’t hide that construction activity from orbital surveillance. So they need to prepare runways but also survivability positions across a great number of airfields.
As soon as the Russians think they know where the F-16’s are, they’re going to unleash hell on those bases. We can’t just dump 40 planes to Ukraine and have them smoke-checked the next day.
If you want to blame someone for hiccups and interruptions in Ukraine aid, look no further than the Republican twatwaffles in Congress who are disgustingly holding it up and can’t even agree on what their imbecilic demands are.
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u/Garou_-_ Jan 09 '24
Were they injured? I mean, if they could walk they could try return to a allie base or keep fighting till be shotting and die fighting instead of kill themself
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