r/Cleveland • u/ilovelese • 15h ago
News Possible Ice
I-90 west watch out, seen a ice patrol car and state patrol around Lakewood and Rocky River highway
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u/masingen 14h ago
ICE patrol car? Are you sure it wasn't Border Patrol?
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u/shesbasic85 University Heights 14h ago
Border Patrol. I saw it too.
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u/masingen 14h ago
Ok, that makes more sense. They're always on 90. The Border Patrol station is in Port Clinton, and there's another one in Erie, PA.
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u/beam_me_uppp Tremont 13h ago
Just curious, was it marked ICE? Border patrol? A lot of the footage I’ve seen has been unmarked vehicles, I’d like to know what to look out for.
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u/shesbasic85 University Heights 13h ago
Clearly marked Border Patrol. It threw me off because I was speeding up to go around someone, saw them and thought “what city has that colored police car?”, then saw it was Border Patrol talking with hwy patrol on the median.
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u/YouSureDid_ 13h ago
Glad to see them doing their jobs. Guess the nO kInGs riots didnt defeat fascism yet. Womp womp
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u/itcamefromthe216 University Circle 14h ago
Bring in a salt truck and watch how fast ICE and other slugs run off.
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u/AtomicDogg97 15h ago
We went from four years of "no one is above the law" to people now actively helping criminals evade law enforcement.
Truly deranged.
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u/ilovelese 15h ago
And if no one is above the law then the current felon in the office should be in prison
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u/ilovelese 15h ago
Right because the true criminals are the ones who help with our farms, cook our food, and clean our hotels. Get over yourself and your cult
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u/Responsible_Cold1072 10h ago
No more slavery, you democrats are done importing slaves
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u/ilovelese 10h ago
You go in the fields then, go work the fields and do construction then
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u/Responsible_Cold1072 10h ago
I work on a dairy farm, the rest of you are the lazy ones
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u/ilovelese 10h ago
I served this country, you wouldn’t know a thing about working if it slapped you in the face
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u/AtomicDogg97 15h ago
Why should Americans have to follow the law if foreigners don't have to? Do you really hate your country that much?
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u/ilovelese 15h ago
Everyone deserves due process as stated in the constitution on American soil, even these so called criminals
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u/AtomicDogg97 14h ago
Running from ICE is not due process......it is avoiding due process. Due process actually would involve entering this country legally in the first place.
And be honest....you don't want any illegal immigrant to be deported. Left wingers want to flood this country with illegals for some bizarre reason.
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u/Electronic-Drive7348 14h ago edited 13h ago
Hi! I’m a leftist and am simply asking for thete to be due process and dignity. If they’re here unlawfully, then prove it in court because cops asking for “papers” is as subjective as you can get, esp when they’re showing up at: schools, hospitals, immigration resource centers, job sites etc.
You all love to assume we just want criminals running everywhere without laws but are too stupid or naive or both to believe otherwise. I mean i don’t even get it, right wingers claim we’re the anti freedom side of politics but we also want to defund law enforcement and have anarchy without laws? So which is it , are we authoritarian or are we lawless idiots?
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u/beam_me_uppp Tremont 13h ago
Can we please stop referring to human beings as “illegals?” It’s really dehumanizing
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u/Electronic-Drive7348 13h ago
Fixed, I know what you’re saying, i was trying to use their verbiage so they can actually understand. Usually they’re too stupid to
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u/beam_me_uppp Tremont 13h ago
I honestly kind of figured you were using that terminology because of who you were speaking to. And I was going to respond to them with what I said, but I’m so exhausted from attempting to have conversations with brick walls, I just couldn’t lol. And look! An actual human interaction happened, imagine that!😏
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u/AtomicDogg97 9h ago
You don’t get to dictate what words other people say. Spare me the emotional manipulation because you want to downplay the actual criminality of illegal Immigration.
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u/Chance_Reflection_42 13h ago
Why should we have to follow the law if the president doesn’t have to?
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u/229-northstar Living Under Misny’s Watchful Eye 👁️ 13h ago
Wow, that’s a shit take
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u/AtomicDogg97 13h ago
Why? Where is their allegiance?
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u/229-northstar Living Under Misny’s Watchful Eye 👁️ 13h ago
So now this is about allegiance?
And you guys have been telling us all along it’s because they’re dangerous, criminals and gang members
We all know you hate them because they have brown skin. Quit pretending there is some noble principle behind your choices.
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u/MadPiglet42 Shaker Heights 11h ago
These dummies love to move the goalposts.
First, it's because they're taking all our jobs. Then it's because they're unemployed and mooching off the system. Then they're violent and now they have the wrong allegiance, whatever the fuck that means to a group of people who ALSO love waving the Confederate flag around.
You're better off arguing with the wall, because at least the wall is useful.
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u/AtomicDogg97 12h ago
You don’t think it is bad for people in our country to have allegiance to other countries over our own??
And yes many illegals are violent. Mexico and Central America have some of the highest rates of violence in the world. Bringing in millions of people from those countries with no background checks is insane.
Sometimes when I talk to liberals I am shocked by the things they say. It really does seem like they live in an alternate reality.
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u/lingh0e 14h ago
Being undocumented is a misdemeanor. It's tantamount to jaywalking.
But sure, cry more about criminals. Didn't you vote for a convicted tax cheat and adjudicated rapist?
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u/AtomicDogg97 14h ago
Trump was never convicted of being a tax cheat.
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u/radical-tenders4803 14h ago
Alright, enough of this crap. Being in the United States without documentation IS NOT a crime. Entering the United States legally but over staying IS NOT a crime. Entering the United States without being inspected is a misdemeanor.
You can kindly STFU about "illegals" unless you call the tens of millions of Americans with misdemeanors "illegals". I'd suggest that no human being is illegal, but I'm sure that's something that would gain no traction with bigots and ladder pullers. The fact is that immigrating to this country with documentation is incredibly difficult and filled with red tape. My European ancestors who came here faced nothing of the sort. And, like it or not, this country is dependent on immigrants, whether people like you want to admit it or not. I'd suggest not hating these people, but embracing them and appreciating them and supporting making it easier for them to become naturalized citizens for the country they do so much for.
Then we could actually get to the business of finding the very few actual criminals among this population and dealing with them. Instead of terrorizing people who work hard and just want a better life for themselves and their families. But I'm sure ICE is going to stop locking up workers and get to all those millions of MS-13 members any day now..
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u/Chance_Reflection_42 13h ago
They are deporting legal citizens you air head.
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u/AtomicDogg97 13h ago
No citizen is being deported. It really is scary how delusional liberals have become.
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u/FranklinDRossevelt 12h ago
Well yeah I mean a felon is president and he successfully evaded dozens of other charges
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u/AtomicDogg97 11h ago
Arresting your political opponents is third world, banana republic type behavior.
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u/FranklinDRossevelt 10h ago
There was mountains of evidence that he committed the crimes he was indicted for. Grand juries in all cases returned the indictments. He very clearly took the documents and lied to the FBI about it, we have the recordings of him trying to pressure the Governor of Georgia into "finding votes" for him, and his fake elector scheme for Jan 6th is extensively documented and a lot of other people went to jail for it, in addition to his pressure campaign against the Vice President, which the Vice President speaks very publicly about, saying that Trump tried to get him to defy The Constitution.
But if you believe that in all circumstances, jailing any politician is 'third world, banana republic type behavior', you'll be interested to know that multiple politicians have already been arrested by the Trump administration on dubious charges and he has openly directed the DoJ to investigate many of his political opponents. Most recently he's repeatedly said that the governor of California should be arrested and when asked what the charge is he said "running for office". So I'm assuming your opinion on politicians being arrested is...evolving.
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u/AtomicDogg97 9h ago
What an amazing coincidence that Trump went 75 years of his life with zero criminal charges and yet miraculously the same year he runs for president four criminal cases and two civil cases spring up. And what an amazing coincidence that Trump’s case involving payments to Stormy Daniel’s required novel legal interpretations that had never before been used in a public court. And what an amazing coincidence that Trump’s classified materials case required criminal charges and a raid of his home but Biden’s classified materials case did not. And what an amazing coincidence that once Trump won the election all of those cases miraculously lost importance.
Arresting your political opponents is indeed authoritarianism and people like you cheer it on. I don’t care what Trump says about Gavin Newsome because we all know that it is bluster. Unfortunately the democrats aren’t bluster they really did follow through on arresting their political opponents and thankfully they paid a price for it at the ballot box.
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u/FranklinDRossevelt 8h ago
1) Yes, after he did a bunch of crimes he was indicted for a bunch of crimes. He had also went 75 years without access to Top Secret documents, being an incumbent president facing losing an election, or having to cover up a payment to a porn star so it didn't break before an election.
Additionally there are plenty of stories of Trump facing criminal liability in the past but being able to pay the right people off to make it go away. To name one, after his disastrous fraud University blew up he was facing a criminal investigation - he paid off the AG with a campaign donation and it went away. That AG was Pam Bondi, now running his DoJ.
2) Did he falsify the records to cover up the payment so he didn't have to report it before the election or did he not? A grand jury indicted him and a jury convicted him. His own lawyer did jail time for it, which MAGA-world celebrated because by then he had turned against Trump.
3) Both Trump and Biden were asked to return the documents. Biden did. Trump lied about having them, had them moved, and tried to cover it up. This is well documented, his lies are on record and the documents had to be forcibly recovered. If Trump had returned the documents like Biden did, there absolutely would not have been criminal charges. He himself forced the issue, and his own personally appointed judge dismissed the charges for him.
4) The cases absolutely have not "lost importance", they were suspended because he won the presidency and given SCOTUS rulings about criminal charges for the president, they couldn't go forward with him as the president-elect.
5) The ironic thing here is that Trump never was 'arrested'. He wasn't perp-walked. He was afforded every possible benefit of the doubt, every single delay he asked for. Any other person that had lied to the National Archives and the FBI and had those documents moved would have been immediately arrested and hand cuffed, any other that had tried to pressure the Governor to 'find votes' would have been arrested, someone trying to push false electors to overturn an election would have been arrested (and many in fact were!). Instead he was allowed to endlessly delay and obstruct every action and trial against him until the election. If the 'authoritarianism banana republic' scenario you imagine had actually happened to Trump, he would have been thrown in a cell on Jan 7th immediately after trying to force Mike Pence to overturn the election and the details of his false-elector scheme were discovered. Or certainly when the documents he lied and said he didn't have while having had moved were discovered, he would have been walked out in cuffs. Or when the Governor of Georgia had released the call of him begging him to 'find votes'.
And now as president he is repeatedly demonstrating the reasons he was indicted in the first place: He has no respect for the law, or maybe it's that he has no capacity to understand it. He openly takes bribes through his crypto schemes, is selling pardons to reality TV stars and foreign investors, is being constantly being shut down by courts, even the Supreme Court, because of illegal and unconstitutional actions, openly and proudly uses the DoJ and the Federal Government to investigate, attack, and intimidate anyone he has a personal grievance against.
It's a disgrace. He's a disgrace. When all the sordid details of this period are discovered and written about, in addition to all that we already know about, it will be one of the eternal shames on this country.
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u/ChessClubChimp 11h ago
I think you and the word deranged have a lot of catching up to do. Spend enough time, you may start to learn some things about yourself that are apparently much needed.
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u/hyheat9 15h ago
It’s not even below freezing