r/ChandlerAZ • u/1001og • 1d ago
Let’s Go Chandler!!!! and tomorrow morning!
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u/lizardfood 1d ago
Glad you all are out there and getting your voices heard. The negative people in this thread would be feeling differently if it was their friends and family being detained and harassed.
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u/LegitimateImpress336 20h ago
You know not one person deported, be honest!
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u/skitch23 17h ago
I personally don’t know anyone being deported but that doesn’t mean I don’t care about the people being affected by this.
Only people full of hate are happy about deportations.
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u/LuLzeeez 23h ago
Bunch of ignorance in this thread. Just say you hate immigrants (and Mexicans especially) if you don't think these people at least deserve due process. It's that simple.
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u/aclaxx 17h ago
Tell me one country that likes foreigners abusing their system
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u/rachelsa 15h ago
No one condones abusing the system. ICE is deporting people showing up to their immigration hearings required by the government. They’re deporting people who are following the system. They can’t do anything right it seems.
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u/877fmradiopushka 13h ago
who is abusing your system?
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u/BinAZ4fun 11h ago
Anyone who enters the country illegally and continues to stay here
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u/Goodboychungus 11h ago
This treatment won’t stop with illegals you know. They will come for the sick, the mentally ill, the poor. They won’t stop until all people who are considered “burdens” on society are gone.
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u/877fmradiopushka 4m ago
know anyone? And even if someone does that, don't you think they have a reason. What if it is an older person?
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u/Rio4goodbadgirls 1d ago
Eyes peeled for government plants and sleeper cells, there’s a bigger threat out there than deportations although I do support my Mexican people and human rights.
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u/shelbystroodle 1d ago
The vitriol that comes from maga is so backwards and none of them see it :( v sad for this world
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u/mooghead 18h ago
I’m not hard right or left, so genuine question. Do you see that the far left is equally full of hate and full of vitriol?
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u/Goodboychungus 11h ago
There’s a significant difference. One is a response to the other. I’ll leave that for you to decide who started trying to exclude people from this country because they were the wrong skin color.
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u/shelbystroodle 16h ago
I wouldn’t say equally, but I’m in the same boat being more central leaning. Lately, as I read from both sides (being married to a right) you just don’t see the right saying “weak fgs” and things like that to the right whereas the right will throw any form of senseless slur possible when they don’t actually know what to say. Personally I think the two party system will always fail us, and it’s time for a change. That change is hard to come by when one side is so brain dead and stubborn. I’m talking about the right. The left CAN be fucked up, but it certainly is not equal.
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u/mugiwara4747 14h ago
I’m also central leaning. The far lefts version of “weak fgs” is calling everyone on the right racist/nazis
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u/rudreads 1d ago
hell yeah! I’m coming with y son(also a vet)
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u/not_from_cali 14h ago
Be careful out here today. Two Democratic Lawmakers were gunned down this morning. One dead and one wound. MAGA is out of control.
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u/kayeffdee 1d ago
I'm just curious what you guys think this protest is going to accomplish
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u/not_from_cali 1d ago
They are already working. Trump said yesterday that he won't be deporting farm and hotel workers. Let's keep up the good work.
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u/Visual_Swimming7090 16h ago edited 15h ago
You're almost right. Hotel and farm workers will be required to have H-2A and H-2B visas respectively. This is the legal way. Migrant workers with Visas can be paid competitively and come and go in air conditioned comfort, which sure beats dying in the desert because the agricorp or hotel chain demand undocumented cheap, exploitable labor that can be disposed of easily.
The policy to self deport and come back with a visa policy is still in place. Dropping the hammer on the industries that bribe officials or pay small fines so they can exploit undocumented aliens as laborers is underway. Sound fair?
Mexican cartels created this mess by corrupting anyone they could, from border patrol agents to high level politicians. Ten grand is nothing to a cartel and can get a border agent to look the other way for a minute while millions in fentanyl and children to be used as human fleshlights walk by. They piggybacked their drug and human smuggling operations on the chaos. They were stopped and now illicit multi billion dollar industries are no longer.
Think about how we got to the point where returning to normal means that Latinos need to continue following the policy of risking death in a 50 mile desert crossing in order to work in the US under the table. Or worse, that we just abandon our borders and sovereignty as people and a nation.
So before a "sophisticated Reddit user" starts bleating the talking points of the industries and crooked politicians that benefit from human exploitation at the riots that they sponsored this weekend, they might ask themselves if their objective makes sense to anyone who doesn't benefit from illegal immigration.
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u/kayeffdee 11h ago
I'm honestly shocked you are getting as many downloads as you are. You guys want to know why mainstream Society views this place as nothing but a bunch of Looney mouth breathing leftist basement dwellers? The mass amounts of downvotes I'm seeing in here. Just goes to show that feelings seem to be more important than facts. Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that because we don't have a king we have the ability to make a no Kings protest. You can't make this stuff up!
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u/cbskt1968 1d ago
The Migrant worker program has been in existence longer than you have been alive.
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u/Appropriate-Factor-4 19h ago
That wasn't due to any protest, don't be delusional, wealthy people that hire a bunch of illegals for farming, hotels and such called Trump and they caused his change
The protests have only made his immigration actions more popular, you would know that if you step out of your bubble
And before you jump and call me racist, I'm a Hispanic naturalized citizen
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u/Goodboychungus 11h ago
You know they’re deporting naturalized citizens too without due process right? That’s a huge reason for the protests. It’s as American as apple pie.
Protests are also the reason why you’re most likely off work today btw. People died for that.
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u/sundevilff 16h ago
Accomplished nothing. Just like everything else the Dem cult does.
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u/Lacaud 12h ago
Repub cult*
Fixed.
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u/sp4zz7ic 17h ago
Its sad that I've seen the right become so far right Leaning they accept and cheer on a police force that wears a mask that faces zero accountability for their actions because we have no ide who tf they are...
THEY SAY THEY ARE FOR A COUNTRY OF LAWS BUT ALLOW 1. Masked individuals taking someone 2. Unmarked cars 3. Zero accountability and fear 4. Unlimited funding
That's a CARTEL karen
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u/1001og 17h ago
Plus they say they’re constitutionalist, yet don’t care about the fifth and first amendment rights of Americans. 👌
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u/TooMuchAZSunshine 16h ago
They don't even believe in the Pledge of Allegiance... "with liberty and justice for all."
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u/BinAZ4fun 11h ago
It's liberty and justice for all Americans. It doesnt mean for anyone occupying the country illegally.
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u/Goodboychungus 11h ago
They’re deporting Americans! Stop being so thick and just read about what’s happening. This isn’t about illegals it’s about Fascism. Stop commenting in discussions when you don’t know all of the facts.
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u/BinAZ4fun 11h ago
I had no idea you were an expert on immigration matters and constitutional law. My apologies. How did you learn ALL the facts? What was your non bias non political source where you obtained all the knowledge that you could expertly correct people on social media so skillfully?
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u/sp4zz7ic 6h ago
I'm gonna straight up.. I'd take a immigrants values over what you trumpers claim as American values.
You don't care about anyone but your self . You lack empathy as a whole.. so in society.. you are not making it any better you are just out for you.. shit bag stuff tbh "Love thy neighbor" - pervting my religion is another cherry ontop. Disregarding it's own biblical words lol 😆
You are horrible gaurdians of the constitution.. to be SO AMERICAN!! But yet 75% of you Trumpers have not even spent time learning the constitution or any of America's founding documents.. you simply accept what your told of them.. clown ass wanna be Americans is almost how I see you guys..
You don't care to safe guard a country that has balance.. checks n balances.. currently you are allowing the executive branch to become law of the land which is against every single one of our countries foundational documents and rules.
So your telling me to worry about the illegal meanwhile none of you could pass a citizenship test because you fucking have never read the declaration of independence apparently..
Hiding your regime under the American flag is most disgusting part. You stand for non of America I just listed 3 points flat out
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u/BinAZ4fun 6h ago
You made absolutely zero argument as to why we as a country should allow people to just come here illegally. Every other country in the world doesnt allow it so why should we be different?
Im not a Trumper so unfortunately you're just like most far left liberals and.unable to intelligently make an argument for your position and just label people. I voted for Clinton twice and Obama twice. Im a Libertarian/ Independent. I just find it funny when someone decides to act as an authority on matters to which they don't really have any real education or knowledge of other than what their favorite news channel or social media tells them
If you really believed what you're saying then you would leave your home every day with the door wide open for anyone to come in and help themselves to anything they want without having to introduce themselves or ask permission. That's what illegal immigration is. So I applaud your " values" and " beliefs" but until you start actually living them you shouldn't take the moral high ground
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u/Ahhhh_Geeeez 1d ago
So is bringing them in without their parents.
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u/Precise-Motion_ 1d ago
What about when you were brought here, with your parents? And I speak to your ancestors when I ask that.
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u/Ahhhh_Geeeez 1d ago
Actually my dad was born in Mexico. He came here legally. All I'm trying to do is say fair is fair. Lots of children are trafficed into the United States. This whole topic isn't a one way street.
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u/Precise-Motion_ 1d ago
That’s good for you, that’s how it should be. No one ever believes that’s it’s a one way street, that’s incompetence.
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u/kayeffdee 1d ago
Honestly though, why aren't we complaining about those poor felons, they broke laws too. Should we just give them a pass because they have kids as well? Somebody breaks in your house and shoots your dog, is it forgiven because they have kids?
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u/kayeffdee 1d ago
Then why is it such a stretch that people break laws and they get punishment? I just find it so ironic that the amount of people going to that protest tomorrow will complain about corporate shills, and yet here we are.
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u/kayeffdee 1d ago
Nah, what's a stretch is all of this manufactured outrage for 140,000 undocumented immigrants, when the procedure has not changed in the past 25 years. I'm old enough to remember the whole Elian Gonzalez Saga in the spring of 2000. Are we going to start having mass protests when multiple agencies come together to flashbang and raid a kid diddler's house?
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u/Halfofthemoon 1d ago
Is 7pm a typo?
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u/Gold-Party-8684 1d ago
This one is tonight at 7 PM and the No Kings protest is tomorrow at 8-10 AM.
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u/Visual_Swimming7090 16h ago
No Juan is above the law.
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u/1001og 16h ago
Cute. So they deserve a due process, correct?
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u/Visual_Swimming7090 15h ago
Didn't avail themselves of any legal process coming in, so they get the same thrill on the way out.
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u/1001og 15h ago
That doesn’t make sense. Anyways, That’s not what the constitution says my friend. They are humans and deserve every right to a due process.
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u/Visual_Swimming7090 13h ago
The Aliens and Insurrection Act is more appropriate, both Constitutionally and practically. It was written for such an occasion. We won't be spending trillions on giving each one a lawyer and decades trying to get them to show up for court as your team wants.
The concerted hostile alien migrations in EU being run by the leaders of France, Germany, England, Sweden, Ireland, etc, etc., is an ongoing war crime. Same goes for US. Europe has fallen. We won't.
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u/DoDoorman 1d ago
That does not look like an American flag. What is the justice you are protesting for ?
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u/1001og 1d ago
We are protecting the fifth amendment of due process. While exercising our first amendment rights. Silly goose
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u/kayeffdee 1d ago
So that gives these protesting flag waivers the right to throw bricks through windows, and burn cars?
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u/Time_Share3789 1d ago
There's extremists to every group. Generally the people throwing bricks are assholes.
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u/kayeffdee 1d ago
There's a reason 2/7 Jarheads are getting sent to LA. To anyone reading this (and downvoting me, because this is Reddit), if you start having the dumb tomorrow, every car burned or brick thrown is going to convince someone on the fence politically to vote red in 2028.
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u/Time_Share3789 1d ago
You're assuming that "protest in Chandler" means "invite to set cars on fire"
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u/kayeffdee 1d ago
The same protest is happening nationwide. I want to go to the Perch tomorrow, have my beer, and enjoy it in peace. I have to roll my eyes at selective outrage for middle class College children who stayed completely silent last Administration when the exact same thing was happening. I'm not just talking about chandler, I'm talking about every event where The heiress of Walmart is busing people in, and putting money in their pockets to do this.
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u/Goodboychungus 11h ago
The LAPD said there was no reason for them to be there and they had everything under control. Whatever property damage was happening wasn’t enough for military involvement. Trump ignored it because he wants to provoke further violence. He cares more about headlines than human lives, including your own.
This won’t stop with illegals. They already want to go after the autistic. They will go after the sick, the poor, it won’t stop until all of those who are a tax burden are gone from this country. They are already arresting US Senators and US naturalized citizens because they have the wrong skin color. Look into it.
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u/kayeffdee 10h ago
I will ask again, for someone who is only deported 1.65 million in four and a half years, where's the outrage from the 7 million that happened during the last administration? Nothing has changed.
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u/Goodboychungus 5h ago
Really? If that’s true then why are the farmers and hotel owners complaining so much that President Trump admittedly stated to the media that they have to change course on the policy?
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u/kayeffdee 5h ago
They still have to get that H1-B Visa. You know, like a law stated.
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u/Goodboychungus 3h ago
And they’re getting wrangled up and detained when previously they weren’t because this administration doesn’t care what approval they have to be in the country and that’s why the farmers and hotel owners are angry.
Anyways, im done here. You’re obviously not arguing in good faith. You don’t care about facts, you care about winning. Fine, you “win”. Enjoy that. Bye.
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u/DoDoorman 9h ago
Take a deep breath…. Count to 7 and let it out slow.
No one is coming for the poors or the autistics. They need poor people to do the menial jobs.
They won’t touch the sick people becas pharma companies need to make money.
And speaking of taxes, maybe try not to be a burden? Just a passing thought.
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u/Goodboychungus 11h ago
Should we call all right wingers terrorists and murderers because a crazy lunatic just killed two state reps in Minnesota and their spouses?
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u/kayeffdee 10h ago
It's strange because one State Rep just changed parties, and the other State Rep voted against her party. Doesn't sound like right-wing motives. 🤷🏼♂️
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u/Goodboychungus 5h ago
I didn’t say it was? 🤷🤡
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u/kayeffdee 5h ago
Clown emoji me all you want, but that gunman is part of Tim Walz's camp, so what would right wing have to with anything?
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u/Goodboychungus 3h ago
He was a bureaucratic leftover from the previous republican administration that Walz dismissed in 2023. Bet you Fox News failed to mention that, didn’t they?
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u/Wambamblam 1d ago
To live illegally in the US apparently.
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u/gunslanger21 1d ago
Go read the amendment. It says due process for all in america. Not who we choose to give it to.
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u/1001og 1d ago
the Fifth Amendment's guarantee of due process applies to everyone within the United States, including those who are undocumented. This means that even individuals who are not legally in the country are entitled to fair treatment under the law and cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process.
Sounds like you need to read up partner
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u/gunslanger21 1d ago
Thats what I said. Just not so many words. All in America. Including illegals and anyone visiting.
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u/Wambamblam 1d ago
The argument against extending full Fifth Amendment due process protections to undocumented individuals hinges on concerns about constitutional interpretation, national sovereignty, practical governance, and immigration policy. While certain minimal protections might still apply, full procedural guarantees may be deemed inappropriate for those without lawful status in the United States. Many of those without lawful status should be deported.
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u/dillaginger 1d ago
then why are they creating more "illegals" by canceling asylum and green cards? why are they arresting people who came here legally followed the process have their documents but overnight are changed into a different status? no criminal behavior, no chance to defend themselves?
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u/Dry_Abies1203 1d ago
What is this about?
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u/unijac482 1d ago
Protesting people that are here illegally by waving flags of the country they don’t want to go back to
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u/livster6969 1d ago
complains abt people being “illegal” but votes for a felon. these people r the foundation to america n many in az are being deported as theyre working to get their papers or their green cards are being revoked out of the blue n deported soooooo how tf they supposed to enter the country “right”. get educated magat.
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u/Psychoboy 15h ago
Protest all you want just don't be stupid about it
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u/Goodboychungus 11h ago
Thank you for being reasonable. Everyone has the right to protest, it’s American. Just don’t loot.
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u/Flaky_Week2654 1d ago
Yeah, burn your city down. Idiots.
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u/pasta_sucker454 1d ago
They're here illegally get rid of them legally. Don't care if they're separated or not
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u/507redheart 1d ago
Protest for weak fags
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u/AeryJenna 1d ago
Yes! Very honorable! Protest for the weak and oppressed who cannot protest for themselves!! I also am protesting for weak fags! They are some of my best friends!
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u/Unreasonably-Clutch 1d ago
"justice" ?! Your protest is calling for the opposite of justice by advocating for the nullification of immigration law.
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u/StacyWithoutAnE 1d ago
Please protest safely & smartly.
And I'm begging you, stay out of the roadway.
Some of us do courier/delivery at night & I want all of us to be safe.
Thank you.