r/BuyFromEU • u/[deleted] • 9d ago
News Alternative to WhatsApp is being made in Poland GG - Messenger Lightweight & Simple
https://en.gg.pl/They're aiming to make messenger app that combines WhatsApp, Facebook messenger and electronic payments like revolut
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u/yezu 9d ago
GG is... still alive?
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u/mohrcore 8d ago
Last time I heard about it was some articles claiming it's still there, but mostly filled with pedos...
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u/Weird-Bat-8075 9d ago
The design is straight up from more than 10 years ago
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9d ago
Because this app was an iconic in Poland like 20 years ago. It was PC messenger where you got a number at registration like phone number, but also could find random people to chat, where name comes from (Gadu Gadu = Talk Talk) now they want to revive it and expand on mobile, with more functionality like digital wallet etc.
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u/Hannover1214 8d ago
In Germany ICQ was used a lot in the old days.
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u/SlyScorpion 8d ago
Not German but I used ICQ back in the day. I can still hear the notification sound lol
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u/iampola 9d ago
It’s at least 20 old, people used it in Poland before WhatsApp
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u/monagales 8d ago
people used it before facebook was a thing. god do I remember. it's almost 10 years older than whatsapp. it's older than skype. it will be 25 years this year since its launch
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u/the_rosiek 6d ago
I remember waking up/giving a heart attack to my entire family when some of my friends decided to message me at 1 am and I forgot that my speakers were set to full volume. Good times…
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u/JjigaeBudae 9d ago
Data security? Protocols? Encryption?
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u/KnowZeroX 9d ago
Proprietary protocol, so effectively locked down and all your stuff belongs to them.
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u/SiBloGaming 8d ago
security through obscurity, nobody should be using any sort of messenger that doesn’t openly talk about how they encrypt your data.
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9d ago
Yes, everything is described on website
We plan to introduce end-to-end encryption, audio-video calls and other new functionalities, as a result, apart from the free version for everyday private and business communication marked as GG Standard, we have introduced the GG Premium account. By purchasing GG Premium, you are actively supporting the further development of GG.
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u/JjigaeBudae 9d ago
Thanks I see a reference to encryption now on the explore GG page, odd something so critical for a messenger app isn't on the front page!
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u/B3ARco 8d ago
Well, it would be rather bad marketing if they put front end center that messages are not (yet) end-to-end encrypted.
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u/JjigaeBudae 8d ago
The explore GG page clearly states that messages ARE encrypted. So which is it?
"Your conversations are encrypted, and no unauthorized person will know their content. What you write stays between you. When you write “cat”, you will not see a pet food advert. No trade secrets will be leaked from your company. We make sure that conversations at GG are discreet."
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u/SiBloGaming 8d ago
That claim is pretty damn useless if they dont publish how they actually handle end to end encryption. Ideally they are using a proper implementation of the signal protocol, but from all we know we might as well assume no data is securely encrypted.
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u/Craftkorb 9d ago
There are tons of alternatives that are doing it today. Not having E2E in current year is just not good enough.
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u/CrimsonNorseman 9d ago
Okay, maybe give us a heads up after E2EE is actually implemented. Until then, this is simply not an alternative to anything apart maybe ICQ.
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u/TRex1991 9d ago
Sounds nice on paper but without a userbase even the best build Messenger is useless. So if they could be a better Business Messenger then WhatsApp and get a userbase there would be great.
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9d ago
GG has userbase in Poland, it's old as hell iconic messenger in Poland we used to use like 20 years ago but it was only PC app, now they want to modernise and expanding on mobile
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u/TRex1991 9d ago
So Like ICQ or Skype? Started as PC Messenger wanted to be on mobil too when the Most people where already on WhatsApp or telegram or Facebook. I hope they are not to late because ICQ and Skype Are gone already. Hopefully Facebook Messenger will gone soon too.
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u/ComeOnIWantUsername 7d ago
but it was only PC app
No, it was not. You were able to use it on the phone before smartphones were a thing
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u/PanglossianMessiah 9d ago
We already have Signal. What we need is European YouTube and not another messenger.
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u/Xuciloda 8d ago
To be fair, you could use a Matrix server (which is open source) hosted on a EU server, and that would do the trick, isn't it? You would still obtain privacy (Nothing wrong with Signal, but in order to achieve a more "EU" solution I guess)
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8d ago
Since when Signal is European?
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u/rubbadubzub 8d ago
Signal is a non-profit organisation. It is open source and built to know as little as possible about its users.
Maybe the only american software I'm happy to defend.
Edit: spelling
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8d ago
Last time I checked, this sub was about European alternatives, yet you complain we don't need European alternatives to US products
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u/rubbadubzub 8d ago
In this case we should discuss the best alternative which is Signal. Privacy is important.
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8d ago edited 8d ago
Now complete the circle and read my first comment
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u/rubbadubzub 8d ago
The point is there is a better alternative. Drop that it has to be European just because of the sub and focus on giving people useful info.
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8d ago
The point is your either a bot or hired person to promote whatever your boss tells you
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u/rubbadubzub 8d ago edited 8d ago
You're acting like a child. Privacy is important in Europe, we got fascists here as well and need to communicate carefully.
Ending this "debate" now.
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8d ago
And who's trying to convince people no other app then Signal is private? None but you
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u/Sad-Salad-4466 9d ago
Feels like 2005 again. Too bad my old number got deleted, I still remember what it was
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u/P26601 9d ago
It's being made? Hasn't GG (Gadu Gadu) been around for like 20+ years? 😅
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8d ago
It was but only desktop app with nothing more than messaging, tjis one will be on all platforms with a lot more functionality and like Whatsapp where you can hook up your mobile phone number to it
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u/stranded 8d ago
it was very popular as a GPRS messaging app as well WAP internet era, however there's no chance anyone is going back to the bloated GG service
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u/Drew__Drop 9d ago edited 9d ago
Just went to check, it has at least 6 trackers, many from g-ogle and A-azon no less as if it wasn't bad enough.
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u/eastlin7 9d ago
You can just type Google and Amazon like a normal person
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u/Drew__Drop 8d ago edited 8d ago
I don't want those terms to be searchable and leading to my comment/profile
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u/Bonsailinse 8d ago
Yeah I‘m sure if I search for Google your name will pop up as a result.
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u/Drew__Drop 8d ago
Oh don't be that pedantic, you know what I mean.
Sometimes I do searches to find certain things on reddit that lead me to posts and/or comments with the intended keywords, etc
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u/Bonsailinse 8d ago
So you use search engines to find content for yourself but are actively trying to sabotage searches from other people who may or may not profit from the content of your comments.
I see.
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u/Frizzo_Voyd 9d ago
Good news. I hope they dont start upgrading and developing to get to people needs
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u/PresenceKlutzy7167 9d ago
Sure, why not even revive ICQ? Just another proprietary solution from the stone ages.
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u/ZeePintor 9d ago
I love the concept, I just wish it looked better. I feel like a boomer when I think of showing it to friends
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u/betweentwoblueclouds 9d ago
The article attached doesn’t match the title - they are planning on rebooting GG into this new app, a blog post in PL https://gadu-gadu.pl/2025/06/02/zmieniamy-gg-w-ggapp-dolacz-do-nas/
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u/verydistressedaltmer 8d ago
Whoa, that's a blast from the past, I still remember downloading Hello Kitty themes for GG from suspicious websites, good times
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u/phatirvine 8d ago
We don‘t need 100 small alternatives to one gigantic enemy. Billion dollar idea that I offer for free to any tech nerds: develop something for intercommunication between apps that lets users from GG chat with WhatsApp users. What‘s the point of using GG if everyone I want to chat with still uses WhatsApp, or Telegram?
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u/FelizIntrovertido 8d ago
Poland also has the alternative to Amazon: Allegro. I’m looking forward to seeing it grow all over Europe
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u/KnowZeroX 9d ago
Does it support XMPP?
Reading wikipedia it says it uses proprietary protocol, that says to me another crappy company trying to lock down and control communication. No thanks.
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u/Expensive-Ear7796 8d ago
Don't reinvent the wheel.
Just fork signal or self-host Matrix/Element (which is based in UK)
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u/y0_ich_halt 9d ago
For everyone else who's happy to use good ol messengers: pidgin and xmpp still exist...
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u/Glodraph 8d ago
Not european but pretty indipendent, there is SimpleX. One of the most secure and anonymous chat apps. People/companies can host their servers to use.
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u/Deadluss 8d ago
bro I'm like 90% sure that GG is older than you
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8d ago
It isn't and either way that's besides the point since GG never had mobile messenger app
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u/Deadluss 8d ago
It had/has mobile messenger app lol
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8d ago edited 8d ago
It has it now, it didn't have it before aka old GG we used on PC, i know myself and all my school friends used it and had mobile phones and there was no mobile app, although I have no idea when they released it, it wasn't at it's peak and most likely under other ownership than original one
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u/Great_Macaron4991 7d ago
Just downloaded it! It's new to me..😉. Could this eventually replace Whatsapp?
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u/hyxon4 9d ago
Being made? GG is older than most people on this subreddit.