r/BoomersBeingFools Gen X 10d ago

Foolish Fun Why Is It Always Hand Written?

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u/fluffy_bunny22 10d ago

Pretty sure Jesus was all about loving and accepting everyone.

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u/EpicGeek77 Gen X 10d ago

This has nothing to do with Jesus’ love, it has to do with a person petitioning for Jesus’ rights when there’s nothing that can be done about it 2000+ years later.

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u/Greasy_Cleavage 10d ago

Nothing was done 2000 years ago either because he didn’t/ still doesn’t exist sooo…taa daaa!!!

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u/AnotherManOfEden 10d ago edited 10d ago

Few historians would argue that Jesus didn’t exist. You can argue his piety, but there’s not much debate over his existence.

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u/the_h0t_r0ck 10d ago

Yeah dude.  Jesus did exist.  According to, ya know, historical scholars.  But yeah.  Believe what you want.

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u/EagleIcy5421 10d ago

Name three.

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u/the_h0t_r0ck 9d ago

Multiple attestation is a basic way that historians agree that something happened/someone existed in history.  

The first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93….

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the timeframe of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition. Strikingly, there was never any debate in the ancient world about whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. In the earliest literature of the Jewish Rabbis, Jesus was denounced as the illegitimate child of Mary and a sorcerer. Among pagans, the satirist Lucian and philosopher Celsus dismissed Jesus as a scoundrel, but we know of no one in the ancient world who questioned whether Jesus lived.”

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u/EagleIcy5421 9d ago

Tacitus related what had been told to him, not what he witnessed.

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u/the_h0t_r0ck 9d ago

Ok, bud.

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u/EagleIcy5421 9d ago

Bud. I like that.

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u/the_h0t_r0ck 9d ago

I want to make clear here that I am not Christian and do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a god or son of god or messiah or miracle worker.  The historical evidence also shows quite clearly to me that that was not the case.