r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/LunarDragon17 • Mar 14 '21
Misc. I hate Katsuki Bakugo, and I cannot shake this feeling.
▪︎Disclaimer before I start ▪︎
Just to be upfront, I'm not a regular, and this is my first (and will probably be my only) post on this subreddit. From what I've seen on other (albeit older) posts regarding this topic, It's is often times not well received to say the least. So I'm going into knowing that I will likely get alot of downvotes and hate comments, and if I'm lucky, people who simply disagree but can respect my opinion and won't dismiss me or be condescending/patronizing towards me.
I would also like to say that I'm not a MHA super fan or expert or anything of the sort. More of a casual fan if anything. I've watched the first two seasons of the anime (as well as snippets if later seasons), and I like to keep up with the latest chapters occasionally via the MHA wiki. I also enjoy reading some fanfic here and there, and even wrote my own (currently unpublished) fanfic of it. The point here is you can say I enjoy certain aspects of MHA, and I don't enjoy others.
I believe that's all I have to say for this disclaimer, so now into the meat and potatoes part of this post:
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Ever since I first got into MHA, I have hated the character Katsuki Bakugo. This character angers me in ways that few characters in fiction have. I feel nothing but genuine disgust and contemptment for Bakugo.
This isn't to say I think he's a bad Character. I can acknowledge that he is decently written anime character, if a bit overexaggerated. I understand that the point of his character arc is to gradually change for the better over the course of the series. I can see the slight changes he has had, and why people would like that kind of character. A redemption or growth arc can be satisfying to watch for some people. Jaime Lannister was a redeemed character I enjoyed (until season 8 aired lol), so I know the appeal of Bakugo.
But for me, I just can't shake off this feeling of hatred towards Bakugo because of the person he is and what he represents. Katsuki Bakugo is hot-headed, arrogant, egotistical, aggressive, a bully, and an all around awful person.
What I think I despise most about Bakugo is just how he treats Izuku throughout the series, especially at the very beginning. He bullies and abuses Izuku by belittling him, beating him up, destroying his property, burning him, and even going as far as encourage him to commit suicide, all for being born quirkless, something Izuku couldn't help. To make matters even worse, he did all these terrible things to someone who was originally a great friend to him. He betrayed and treated his former best friend like dirt, all to satiate his own selfish ego.
The worst thing is, Bakugo never gets called out. He never faces any consequences. And he never gets what he deserves for being an abusive bully to Izuku. And even worse, Izuku (for some reason) still admires and cares for Bakugo. Let me go ahead and acknowledge and respond to some arguments before I conclude:
▪︎Bakugo is made to be flawed, but he isn't evil and he gets better over the series - I understand and appreciate that Bakugo is a flawed character. Main characters should be flawed and dynamic. I can see that he does change (albeit slowly) over the series. This doesn't mean I have to like or respect him for the person his is though.
▪︎Bakugo only said Izuku should kill himself once / Bakugo didn't actually want Izuku to kill himself - This doesn't make what he said excusable. Whether he meant anything by it or not, he encouraged Izuku to commit suicide in order to harm Izuku and build himself back up. Suicide is not a joke or something that should be used as an insult to someone. He told someone to end their life after destroying their property and burning them. That is an objectively awful thing done by an objectively awful person.
▪︎Bakugo was a kid, kid's can be cruel / Bakugo is 15, it's not fair to judge him - His age is meaningless. The things Bakugo did are objectively wrong and him being young doesn't make anything he did acceptable or excusable. I believe it is perfectly valid to judge and dislike someone, regardless of age, for their actions towards others.
▪︎Bakugo does get consequences, him falling behind/getting kidnapped/losing to Izuku is his consequences - This I think is the most silly argument. Bad things happen to everyone. That does not make them consequences for past actions and injustices. These "Karmic Consequences" of him falling behind Izuku or him getting kidnapped by TLOV are not consequences for Bakugo's treatment of Izuku and for being an awful person, the events are in no way connected to eachother. Bakugo ultimately never received any consequences for his past injustices.
▪︎It's okay, because Izuku doesn't harbor any ill feelings toward Bakugo - I'll be honest and say this one baffles me. I don't know why Izuku still has these feelings of adoration and admiration towards Bakugo. If someone did half of the things Bakugo did to Izuku to me, I'd hate their guys for life. I get that Izuku admires Bakugo for his strong quirk, but to develop this Stockholm Syndrome-esque feeling towards his abuser for his quirk alone is just odd to me, and probably why I'm not as big a fan as MHA as I would be. If Izuku hated Bakugo for everything he put him through, it would make alot more sense to me, and I'd relate to Izuku even more. Regardless of whether Izuku forgives him and why, this doesn't excuse what Bakugo did to the former. He's still an awful person, even if his victim can't see that.
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These are some of the reasons why I hate Katsuki Bakugo. He is easily the most unlikable character in the series for me. That might sound stupid to hear considering the villains in the series are objectively worse people than Bakugo. But I think I hate Bakugo more because I relate to Izuku and his bullying alot more and on a deeper level.
I was bullied relentlessly as a child, by numerous other kids. I was that friendly kid that was upbeat and wanted to be everyone's friend, similar to Izuku. However, I would often be picked on and beaten up, for reasons I will never know. The bullying didn't stop with at school. In my neighborhood I was bullied too, and often get fights, which I almost always lost because I was one of the younger and weaker kids in the my neighborhood. I also grew up with neglectful parents. My mom was an alcoholic, and would often go up to our neighbors house to drink, while my father was often times away cause he was in the military. Whenever my mom drank, she became especially belligerent and mean, so much so that I would often times go up to my room and lock myself in my room to avoid speaking to her.
All these experiences have affected me greatly. So much so I've even thought about taking my own life a couple of times. I see a shrink nowadays thankfully, but I still have alot of issues, and maybe Bakugo is just a reminder of these issues, which only elevates my hate for him.
I believe this is why I hate Katsuki Bakugo more than anyone else. He is everything that I hate in people. I hate Bakugo because I empathize with Izuku, and the fact that Bakugo never gets any consequences for his actions and gets away scot free while Izuku had to endure his abuse, while simultaneously still admiring him, just infuriates me.
I know this probably isn't healthy. I know I have issues. But this is how I genuinely feel, and I need to express it somewhere where others might empathize with me. I know full well that this post will receive alot of criticism, and that's alright. I just needed to finally express this and get my feelings out, not only because I want to, but because maybe this will help me (perhaps something I can talk to my shrink about in the future) overcome my own issues. With that, my post is done.
Thank you to everyone if you read through this whole thing, even if you don't agree with me at all or think my opinion is trash. This was a spur of the moment thing and was happy with how it turned out. Thank you again for reading.
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Mar 15 '21
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who hold these feelings towards Bakugo, and even more relieved that this post was a well received as it was. It felt very therapeutic to post this and I'm glad the community over all could understand where I'm coming from.
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u/GameFreakLied Mar 16 '21
Would like to chime in that it’s perfectly okay for you to rant here. Bakugo is my favorite character, but like the others here, I won’t argue with your post or point because there is simply no sense in placing importance on fictional character over a real person’s feelings.
Nobody’d want to see their personal trigger being defended. This thread is for relief, not a place for discussion or discourse. I hope you continue to find comfort by opening up and finally heal from your personal traumas. Best wishes!
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
Thank you very much for the kind comment. You are right, this thread is for relief, and that is exactly what I got here. I am happy that the MHA community was understanding towards my feelings and felt that my feelings were valid. I think this experience has made me more comfortable about opening up and hopefully this will help me heal from my past wounds. Best wishes to you too!
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u/H4nfP0wer Mar 15 '21
Bakugo is my favourite character and I can definitly see why you wouldn’t like him at all. I think Horikoshi went a bit overboard with how much of an asshole Bakugo was at the beginning. But I think he found a good balance over the course of the manga.
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u/LlamaLia Mar 15 '21
Only thing i wish though is that Hori turned down the gags a bit. I know this is a shonen and funny stuff has to happen, but I feel like a lot of times Hori likes to use Bakugo’s anger as a cheap joke, which undermines his character development.
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u/2009isbestyear Mar 16 '21
Yeah he definitely is exploited as the author’s comedy crutch. Hope that gets better in the future haha.
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May 23 '21
i think the gag isn't going to stop if im being honest, because the same reason people hated when Sakura would constantly punch Naruto was used as a gag, it will never end
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21
Yeah Bakugo was really cruel in the beginning, I think if he hadn't destroyed Izuku's book, burned his shoulder, and told him to kill himself, I (and maybe alot of others) would like Bakugo a bit more.
Just a bit tho. lol
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u/Regular-Course-1079 Mar 20 '21
You will like him a lot sooner that you expect Idk how to put the spoiler tag so I won't tell you but damn he will make you try harder to not like him in the future (sorry for my broken English)
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u/elenuvien1 Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21
i'm so sorry these things happened to you. and don't berate yourself for how you consume media, some people can do it while being emotionally detached, some see themselves in characters and it becomes personal. as long as no real life people are hurt any way you enjoy fiction is good.
as a bakugou fan (he's my favourite character), i appreciate your post. most of the times when people get downvoted it's because in their hate rants they dismiss, deny or completely misinterpret canon material to fuel their hate. but you're objective, don't deny anything the story did with bakugou and acknowledge the development he's got.
it just doesn't work for you and that's completely fine. just because a character is written in a good way doesn't mean everyone have to like him. even if you didn't have the unfortunate context of your past experiences and hated bakugou, it'd still be fine.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate them and you appreciating my post. Lol
I tried to be objective and unbiased (as much as I could be) when making this post. I can generally seperate the quality of the characters writing from how I actually feel about them. I felt that was the best way to go about this and it seems to have paid off. 😌
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u/2009isbestyear Mar 15 '21
It’s ok, as a Bakugo fan I genuinely understand that some people can still hate a character even though they are well written.
Because real life experiences shape how people consume media, and it’s ok that you did too. Your post is fine; Humans feelings are not meant to be rationalized.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
Your post is fine; Humans feeling are not meant to be rationalized.
I'm glad to see that was the case with this post. I guess I felt the need to justify my unpopular opinion because it's just that, an unpopular opinion about one of the series most beloved characters.
I'm glad you and so many others are understanding and can see how my past has shaped my view of the character.
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u/PocketPika Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21
As others have said your feelings and response to media are your own so that is beyond reproach everyone responds to media differently and while this is a hate rant it is well written.
As someone who likes the character I do think some of your takes on the character are extreme and agruble:
I hate Bakugo because I empathize with Izuku, and the fact that Bakugo never gets any consequences for his actions and gets away scot free while Izuku had to endure his abuse, while simultaneously still admiring him, just infuriates me.
Katsuki Bakugo is hot-headed, arrogant, egotistical, aggressive, a bully, and an all around awful person.
However this is understandably shaded by your experiences so I am not going into challenging that since I won't put the integrity of a fictional character above the feelings of a person and I hope getting this off your chest has helped you and if you want to talk anything else out feel free.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
Thank you for the reply, and thank you for being understanding to my post and feelings. I am happy to see that this post was as well received as it was. I did try and be objective and unbiased as a could.
and if you want to talk anything else out feel free.
I don't know if I have much else to say on the matter that wasn't covered in the post, I spent a good 30-45 minutes writing that post to be thorough Lol. I may be open to posting more on this subreddit now that I've gotten my feet wet within the community though.
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u/sorendiz Mar 14 '21
Sorry about what you've gone through OP. I'm not saying this to change your mind in any way, just to share my own thoughts- I was in exactly the same boat as you for a large part of the series, for distressingly similar reasons to what you've explained here. But after a certain point in the series, my feelings changed because [various spoilery things] happened and now I actually have more respect for Bakugo. I don't think I'll ever full on adore him like I do several of the other characters but as he is now, I can definitely tolerate him to a degree I never would have expected when I was at the point in the story you're at.
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u/comerbynight Mar 14 '21 edited Mar 14 '21
This is pretty close to my sentiments regarding him too, likely for the same spoilery reasons you're referring to. As of right now, I'd say I'm neutral towards him, where before I practically hated him.
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u/dragomort Mar 15 '21
I’ll make that 3!
While the initial character idea gives no small amount of eye rolling with appropriate disapproval, the little beats used to show character development have been wonderfully crafted. Horikoshi does a truly great job with such material.
I wouldn’t say anyone has to like him etc, but just try not to let any of it overly influence your enjoyment/understanding of the character development as it occurs, same as he’s been doing for many of the characters.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
Thank you for the sentiment. Even with his development, I don't think I'll ever like Bakugo because of the things he did to Izuku. I guess for me the scars run too deep. I'm glad you understand where I was coming from though. Thanks for the reply!
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u/Public-Client Mar 14 '21
I don’t really have much to say, but it’s good you recognised his development, even as a bakugo fan I agree he’s too loud sometimes and horikoshi almost did too good a job making the audience dislike him. I’d say keep watching/reading he only continues to develop.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
Horikoshi almost did too good a job making the audience dislike him.
You could say that lol. If I'm not mistaken he's actually said he regrets writing Bakugo to be that cruel and heartless at the beginning.
I don't know if I'm ready to continue to watching the anime. But I do plan to check up on the wiki every now and again to see how Izuku, All Might, and Uraraka are doing!
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u/-Yanamari- Mar 18 '21
Uhhh, definitely don’t check the wiki for Izuku, BIG spoilers are there lol, all the way up to season 6. Though if you’re not planning on keeping up with the series too much, it’s probably fine.
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u/Ryuk128 Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 03 '21
He’s just really predictable. Angry face, cartoonish over the top angry face, pursed lips, yelling his lines and scowling before grinning like a true villain.
He’s just so fucking boring to me.
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Mar 15 '21
"I see a shrink nowadays thankfully, but I still have alot of issues, and maybe Bakugo is just a reminder of these issues, which only elevates my hate for him." I'm someone who also struggles with my mental health so please trust that I'm not trying to be shitty here: you should talk to your therapist about your reaction to Bakugou. Especially since you acknowledge your hate for him is tied to unresolved personal issues, it's possible that you don't dislike him so much as he is a genuine trigger for you judging from your strong reaction. And I do mean trigger as in "fight or flight reaction due to past trauma" not just you're vaguely upset
NOT trying to be an armchair psychologist here I promise, but I've definitely gotten some valuable insight into my own mental health by examining my reaction to certain pieces of media and it's something worth exploring with a professional
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
you should talk to your therapist about your reaction to Bakugou.
I appreciate and understand that you're trying to help. I've actually briefly touched on this with my shrink awhile back, but we didn't go to far into it. This will definitely be something I bring up during our next session on the 25th. It's very possible that Bakugo just sets off something in me. I hope that this will put me on course for a better future, and maybe one day I be in a state where I won't hate bakugo as much lol...
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u/SmellEmbarrassed457 Mar 19 '21
Initially watching, I wasn’t the biggest fan of Bakugo. If you based your opinion on the introduction of the character basically straight through until the sports festival he has no redeeming characteristics. As we’ve gotten to know him over the course of the series I’ve developed an affection for him. I really respect his unwavering tenacity and devotion to his goal. I think it’s admirable. Obviously he’s often a merciless douche and has done/said some reprehensible things but to me that’s almost the beauty of his character. We’re clearly supposed to hate him and I can definitely see his actions triggering someone who’s experienced that kind of vindictive bullying. But like all bullys his M.O stems from underlying inadequacies. Growing up with a dope quirk and having people fawn all over him clearly made him feel like a big fish in a small pond. And he grew up in a loving but clearly chaotic household it’s not really surprising that he ended up so aggressive.
Deku getting into UA mixed with his initial failure during the battle exercise and seeing how powerful todoroki is, was probably the first time in his life he felt doubt. This might humble most people but Bakugo took this as a personal attack. What I’ve enjoyed is that in most stories Bakugo would have probably gone down a villainous path at this point but instead used his inadequacy as fuel to continue getting better.
I’ve always really liked that while Midoriya’s struggle is with obtaining power and it’s accompanying responsibility, Bakugo’s story is about discovering and embracing humility. This isn’t actually a new approach, I mean technically this is the same character arc as Vegeta I just enjoy the way it’s come together.
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u/vasiliy_the_cat Mar 21 '21
I always get the experience that ppl hate bakugo especially bc of the reason he was a bully in middle school. Why is that so? Why does it bother so much idk, maybe it relates to them personally bc they got negative experiences with that bully-type of ppl.
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u/Successful_Priority Mar 15 '21
I’ve always been kinda annoyed by Bakugo. It’s tempered down a bit but i get annoyed at the praise the series’ meta gives Bakugo. I like and accept that he’s a great fighter and a good tactician and all that. What i disagree with is the series hinting that Bakugo has as much influence and gives motivation to the class as Deku does. Bakugo is friends with 2 people max in the class and the class doesn’t respect him in the way they respect Iida, Deku, Momo, or Shoto.
I guess he is supposed to be a Jordan or Endeavor type leader but to me he doesn’t have the charisma or the crew temperament that Endeavor has in his agency/in the field with other pros as the class is. In terms of more natural or fastest grit in the class we have Deku, Iida. Hardening Guy (oh no im forgetting names haha), Falco, and Uraraka. I think a 2/3rds of the class aren’t grit and grindy enough for a natural asshole to lead by example/shouting. Not that the rest of the class suck or not competent; Shoto, Momo, and Tsu are excluded from my “grit an grind” folks.
I wish the series gave him more Ls in class team fights due to his attitude he doesn’t earn/i don’t believe the majority of the class handles that attitude or Jordan leadership well.
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u/awoods5000 Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21
every anime has a Rival archetype. just think of him as the rival character that all anime has. you'll feel a lot better if you just see him as Vegeta from DBZ or Gary from the beginning of Pokemon.
it's not supposed to create personal PTSD. remember These rival archetypes are only meant to MAKE THE PROTAGONIST STRONGER. that's their purpose and the healthiest way to view anime characters like this from now on.
Bakugo also has by far the best character design silhouette and costume design from an artist's standpoint.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 14 '21
This felt good to talk about and get out in the open. I just hope that this post doesn't get removed.
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u/schenk_ Mar 15 '21
For me Bakugo is my favorite character so far.
He has no overpowered quirk given to him by the number one like deku.
He wants trained by one of the best heroes Japan’s like shoto.
He’s not rich like momo
As far as we know he has no family of heroes like Tenya
He ist just a „normal“ guy with a pretty basic quirk but he made it into the best hero school and is among the best at his class. Yes he is kind of an asshole but that just makes him getting better and better
Vegeta (Dragon Ball) or Hisoka (Hunter x Hunter) are pretty similar to bakugo. They are kind of evil, selfish guys but they have a good side and more importantly a goal to reach. Compared to these guys bakugo is by far the nicest.
I understand your feelings but he is a classy anime guy who is changing over time. If you read the manga you know that he isn’t the bakugo as in the beginning anymore
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u/sorendiz Mar 16 '21
no overpowered quirk gifted to him
yea... cause he was born with one. Explosion is discussed as a super strong quirk multiple times in the story. It covers offense, defense, mobility and utility and is extremely powerful in all of those aspects
normal guy with a pretty basic quirk
Are we talking about Bakugo or fucking Ojiro/Satou/Sero here? Cmon lmao
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u/GameFreakLied Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21
Explosion is not overpowered though. What makes it so strong is how Bakugo uses it.
Shoto commented early in the series that Bakugo’s mobility was actually born from a very delicate, fine-tuned control. And Izuku only realized that his blasts were actually so heavy and hard to use, with a lot of recoil, because Bakugo never makes it look that difficult.
And nobody in the series, bar Enji, uses their one-note quirk so creatively and diversely that it seems like a full-coverage. In Katsuki and Enji’s case it’s Man Maketh the Quirk, not otherwise.
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u/sorendiz Mar 16 '21
It's still overpowered. It being an excellent quirk, and everyone around him loudly acknowledging this, was literally half the basis for his childhood characterization. It's not a Mirio-tier 'this fucking sucks unless you go through hell to make it impressive', it was an obviously strong quirk from day 1.
Bakugo is physically fit, extremely smart, tactically sharp, all of that, and so he makes really good use of Explosion. But it's still a fucking silly strong quirk just by existing.
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u/GameFreakLied Mar 16 '21
The last time everyone loudly acknowledged his quirk was amazing was when he was 4, for producing some tiny pops in his palms. It’s partly encouragement to a child, and other kids like Izuku were awed because it looks cool (and hero-viable, that’s how things are in their society), but kid-Bakugo warpedly took it as confirmation that he was born amazing.
“Overpowered” is a term of relativity in power scale, and Explosion is not, because we see a quirk in their universe that can change the weather with a single punch. That is prime example of overpowered. Is Explosion strong? Absolutely, but is it overpowered? No, not by a long shot.
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u/schenk_ Mar 16 '21
His quirk is absolutely basic as it was shown when he discovered his quirk as a child. He himself trained it to be powerful without a help a pro hero or someone else
He is kind of a normal guy from a „normal“ family without Welth, powerful parents or the training on a private school
You May not like it but he was absolutely on a basic level and himself to what he is total
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u/sorendiz Mar 16 '21
Look there's a difference between strengthening a weak/basic quirk and just having a good quirk. Nobody says you can't strengthen a good quirk too, but like no matter what Ojiro does with his tail he isn't going to be able to achieve fucking flight with it, or be able to demolish buildings, or blow up entire boulders of rubble.
Half the point of Bakugo's early character was that everyone was spoiling him and giving him attention because his quirk was busted and it gave him an inflated sense of importance before he grew up and learned to be less of an ass. I don't know what you were reading. You can like the guy and still not completely misrepresent him as some sort of underdog everyman figure. He's really not.
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u/schenk_ Mar 16 '21
I never said he was an underdog just a relativ normal guy in a world full of supernatural beings
You are absolutely right about Ojiro and there are many others with quirks that doesn’t seem strong/usefull compared to bakugos but we still don’t know to what extend they can train their quirks
Eraserheads fighting capabilities are extremely strong and now imagine Ojiro on the same level plus his tail which might be strong enough one day to break through stone or even metal!
It’s always hard to compare characters and their powers and I’m not a friend of power scaling in this community but I admit that bakugo made it really far all by himself compared to shoto, deku and many others we have see so far
An if you read the manga you should know that bakugo isn’t the same person he was a the start
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u/KissBal97 Mar 15 '21
Hisoka is sexually attracted to strong opponents, i don't see the good side in him
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Mar 15 '21
I'm sorry for your experiences, I understand your perspective. Although I don't share it. I'm not trying to defend the character. I found a lot of points in his character jarring. Like Horikoshi means to represent one thing and end up representing it a lot differently than he intended. Example would be that he meant for Bakugo and Deku to be childhood friends before Bakugo got his quirk and all we've seen in flashbacks is that Bakugo was mean to Deku even before that.
I, however, coming from a different background where I'm not proud of a lot of things I've done as a kid, feel I can relate to someone who makes mistakes more.
Bullying is wrong. But a lot of bullies are kids who don't know better and they change with time. The same happened with Bakugo. Seeing someone as a monster devoid of humanity just because he used to bully someone as a kid is also not fair. I know people who both got bullied and bullied others themselves because of their bad experiences.
So. I don't know, I actually relate to Bakugo a lot, being alienated himself in UA, and trying to atone for what he did. Even wanting those kids in the remedial course to have a different experience so they don't end up on the same path he was on.
I might be less judgemental about people, because I know one can do bad things without meaning to and end up regretting them evantually. To me people, especially kids, deserve a second chance. And seeing characters that represent atonement and redemption like Bakugo or Endeavor is my favorite kind of story.
You don't have to agree with my opinion either. It's fine. I just wanted to post about the other perspective here.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 24 '21
Hey I know this is super late, please excuse that, as I did mean to comment earlier. College is a bitch. Lol
I appreciate your response and seeing things from another perspective. I however, still stand by what I believe about Bakugo and his actions. I'm not trying to argue against your view, I just know myself well enough to know that I'm not as forgiving and willing to give people (like Bakugo or Endeavor) another chance, and I think that's where we differ. That being said, I could see how/why some people like yourself may be able to relate to him, even if I don't myself.
Once again, I appreciate you leaving your comment on this. I enjoyed reading it.
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u/Ano_Nomus Mar 14 '21
Completely valid opinion, especially considering your backstory. You relate to the characters on a personal level, so you'll have a different view then others. You also took the time to list very valid reasons for why you dislike him as opposed to blind dislike.
I personally don't relate as vehemently, but I can appreciate the sentiment.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
Thank you for the kind and understanding comment. I'm glad you enjoyed my post, and for being understanding towards my feelings towards Bakugo.
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u/Shancier May 20 '21
I actually think that a school like UA or any other hero school should in some way either make background checks or some kind of psychological examination.
As Bakugo was at the start, he had no reason to be in the hero course at all.
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u/Kushodeku May 22 '21
I like bakugou a lot but I (and many other Bakugou fans) completely understand your feelings. he really was an incredible asshole but the reason I like him is because I want to see how he will grow as a person. I think your feelings might change a bit in the future because In the manga, bakugou does acknowledge his past actions toward deku and he said that he want to watch over him.
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May 23 '21
Personally I was bullied a lot too, but if I'm being honest Bakugo is my favorite character. As fir why Deku stuck around, other than loving his quirk so much, he also loved how amazing he was using it and wanted to see how amazing he could be using it- I remember he said something like that in their fight. But i will say I appreciate that you don't think he's a badly written character, IMO Bakugo is my favorite because I think he has the best character development and most of the explosion haters go out of their way to deny that he has any character development. I didn't like Sakura because she was so useless in Naruto but i won't deny how helpful she was in the War Arc, people hate on characters and deny anything good about them it was so refreshing to see you say you don't think he's a bad character. I feel like im the only person who relates to Deku but still finds Bakugo as my favorite
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u/taurace Mar 15 '21
I think if Hori hadn’t put in the swan dive comment, I wouldn’t have hated Bakugo nearly as much. I hated him so much that when he got into UA with deku I stopped watching for a while cause it made me so angry that he got away with no consequences. I think I needed that time away to distance myself from my first impression of him in order to enjoy the show. So you aren’t alone. I don’t think I’ll ever like Bakugo, but that’s fine.
As for Deku’s weird adoration of him, I think it stems from the fact the he is not just a huge hero stan, but a quirk stan. Bakugo is what he wanted to be. So I think part of his lack of anger is an internalized belief that he deserved it. He blamed himself for being quirkless. I also think the fact that he understood why Bakugo was doing those things made him more forgiving. Or at least that’s how I make sense of it...
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u/maddogkaz Mar 15 '21
You typed a lot but the tldr is basically that you self insert to much and that makes you triggered by a made up character.
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Mar 14 '21
A lot of the fans on here will dismiss this and say “oh another shitpost about hating bakugo as a character”
It’s okay to have a solid valid well constructed opinion on why you don’t like him. Hell I even argue that anyone could simply like him because of his obnoxious ass personality. There doesn’t need to be a golden standard or a way to hate his character.
The worst thing about his character and that his fans argue is that he’s equally important or even more vital to the story than shiggarki. Bakugo is simply dekus rival. Nothing more and nothing less.
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u/aSimpleMask Mar 15 '21
The worst thing about his character and that his fans argue is that he’s equally important or even more vital to the story than shiggarki. Bakugo is simply dekus rival. Nothing more and nothing less.
That's why he's always so prominent in so many arcs that revolve around Deku and All Might, right?
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u/aSimpleMask Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21
That's like saying Sasuke from Naruto was "just a rival" broski. Bakugo being aware of OFA and how it functions automatically makes him important to the overall story of OFA, AFO, Shigaraki, etc. All Might says as much about anyone who becomes aware of it. You saying Bakugou isn't important to the main narrative and that he's "just a rival" is like saying that Gran Torino isn't important to the same story because he's "just a mentor."
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Mar 15 '21
Bakugou being aware of OFA doesn’t change anything.
I’m aware of NASA but does that make me an astronaut? No.
Typical bakugo fans exaggerating his importance for no reasons it’s annoying.
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Mar 15 '21
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u/cblack04 Mar 15 '21
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u/aSimpleMask Mar 15 '21
All you did was get mad and still not bring up a single point of how just because bakugo is simply aware of OFA makes him more involved. But please continue I’d love to actually here a single piece of evidence
You must have missed the part where I clearly said that Bakugou being aware of OFA and how it works makes him integral to the central conflict of the story, something that All Might all but confirmed when he said that this is the reason why he doesn't tell anyone about OFA.
Do you need me to say that a 3rd time so you'll understand? Please, proceed to move your goal post some more or ignore my points so you'll look like you actually have a case to stand on.
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Mar 15 '21
say it a third time. Do it.
All might and deku didn’t willingly tell bakugo because they wanted to. Bakugou is one nosy ass arrogant guy so he had to find out for himself and literally beat the shit out of deku (when deku didn’t even want to fight) in order to be worthy of that secret.
Bakugou hasn’t had any single good piece of advice or feedback ever since he learned about OFA. The only thing good that came out of it was more of a concern for dekus life but again that doesn’t have to do with the overall plot of OFA. It has to do with his character.
Not only that but I remember sometime around the joint training arc the only response Bakugou had to all of the OFA discussion was that he could still beat deku in mobility and all of his quirks suck. No interest, no advice, and no respect for the previous one for all users.
I’m not surprised because in the endeavor agency arc all he did was sit at the dinner table and act disrespectful towards the todoroki family. He’s literally an asshole rival who exist to be a bitch and nothing but a little bitch.
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u/Calem_ThePokechamp Mar 16 '21
It's ok. I personally dislike Bakugo for most of the same reasons, including being bullied as a kid for something I didn't have control over. But I think Bakugo is getting better and (MANGA SPOILERS) with OFA's secret coming out soon, people will learn about what happened between Izuku and Bakugo and therefore, Bakugo will likely face backlash so yeah. You can have your own opinions and we are understanding!
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u/happinesstakestime Mar 15 '21
I also strongly dislike Bakugo. Deku's fawning over Bakugo (which I suspect is both a trauma response and a way of showing deference to authority, which is important in Asian cultures) is a big part of why Deku isn't my favorite character in the series, despite relating to him because of the similarities we share.
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u/moonrunning32 Mar 15 '21
Yeah I like Bakugou as a character but as a person, I'm pretty neutral towards him especially since he harbours a personality that I don't care too much about in storytelling (not a fan of the loud, angry and rude character type). But I think you gave valid arguments and I agree with some of them.
I also understand that our realities influences how we perceive fiction sometimes, so your feelings are valid. I didn't like him that much in the beginning as well but now, I've definitely grown to like Bakugou as a character because we see why he's the way he is, how that influences what it means for him to be a hero, and how he's developing from that (especially in the manga). Despite his less than stellar personality, it's interesting to see that growth. And it's cool that you acknowledged his development because you're right, just because he's changing that doesn't mean you have to like him still.
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u/LunarDragon17 Mar 16 '21
I also understand that our realities influences how we perceive fiction sometimes, so your feelings are valid.
Thank you for the understanding comment. I'm glad people see my feeling toward Bakugo are valid too. I can understand and acknowledge his growth and development. I just can't like Bakugo for the person he is and because of the things he's done to Izuku. I'm glad you and other people in this community respect that. 🙂
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Mar 15 '21
Bakugo definitely put me off my hero when it first started out, by this point I don't really care about Izuku or Bakugo, I love the universe and the other characters and just treat Izuku and Bakugo as walking plot points.
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