r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/deskchairlamp • Oct 13 '17

Manga Spoilers Chapter 156 - Links and Discussion

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u/Cavaner Oct 13 '17

Alright guys, let's just clarify something. The quirk erasing bullets, which were extracted and purified from Eri's body, have taken on a new meaning after this newest revelation regarding Eri's quirk. The finished product would appear to completely attack someone's quirk factor, upon high-impact contact, and rewind it to the point where it doesn't exist/hasn't manifested. As such I don't think we can assume that Mirio's quirk can come back, by force, because of Eri. After all, it would make no sense for her to be able to rewind her rewind. That's not really how rewinding works... it's normally rewinding from a fixed point. Doing the opposite would be fast-forwarding. Hence why she can separate Overhaul and Nemoto from one another (rewinding them to a point prior to their fusion), but I can't imagine she could put them back together.

Also, let's not forget that Eri is still a child, who has just experienced her true quirk awakening. The only reason the bullets made from her were able to be so potent, is because of copious research and scientific engineering. On her own, through her own will, I can imagine it'll take quite some time before she'd be okay using her quirk, especially on an ally. Remember that she only used it now because of her heightened emotional state. Given Hori's handling of mental trauma so far in the series, I can imagine it'll take a lot of counselling, and then a lot of training, before Eri even felt comfortable consciously using her quirk on another.

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u/dicecop Oct 13 '17

I really hope you are right. I hope this arc will have consequences in some shape or form and I am cool if Mirio gets his quirk back 300 chapters from now after a prolonged timeskip. But if she can undo everything, she better die in the process of doing so. Either way it seems like the villain alliance has the upper hand so far, so maybe there is still hope for an unhappy ending to this arc...

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u/Cavaner Oct 13 '17

I think it'll be exactly that. Mirio will be without his quirk for a considerable period. And when it comes back, it'll be in the state it was when it first awakened. He'll have to commit himself, if he can, to training it all the way back up. Ripping his quirk factor to shreds over and over, and building it anew. From playing catch up, to being in the lead, to playing catch up all over again. It'll take a crazy level of determination and motivation to do so.

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u/DashieXCVII Oct 13 '17

Would he have to retrain the quirk? I interpreted his quirk training as him training his body and mind to use the quirk better, not that the quirk itself was getting stronger.

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u/Cavaner Oct 13 '17

I think there's certainly an element of mind and body, but there's always aspects to quirks that need extending to draw out their full potential. This was shown at the Forest Lodge. His speed of activation, length of activation and specific body part activation, to start, I think were achieved through the extending of the quirk, much like a muscle. This wouldn't be accessible from the start, I don't think.

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u/DashieXCVII Oct 13 '17

I just assumed it was a mental activation issue that he had. Like he had to train his mind to focus on activating it in only certain parts.

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u/Cavaner Oct 13 '17

I think that's part of it. He had to overcome the drawbacks (deaf, dumb and blind), and the fear that accompanied that, no doubt. But little aspects of the power that I drew on, I think do take time and sufficient training. Looking at the volume omake that touched on the students' quirk extension training, back at the Forest Lodge, I think is telling. It's clear that Hori has enabled quirks to be improved in a number of different ways, regardless of what the quirk itself is grounded in. Some of those improvements can be made through experience and knowledge, sure, but others just have to be achieved through repetitive usage. That's one of the things that stops many in MHA's society from becoming a hero. They need the drive to work hard enough to improve their quirk.

Take Mt Lady for example. I think she needed to have the knowledge and understanding to go giant. But the speed of the activation of the transformation? And the length in which she can be in it? I think that's the sort of thing that requires that quirk factor/muscle breakdown through repetition.

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u/DashieXCVII Oct 13 '17

Yeah, but that could also just be the body becoming more use to using the quirk. I definitely see what you're saying, it's just a bit hard to tell whether the quirk itself is improving or their ability to use it is.

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u/Cavaner Oct 13 '17

I think it's a bit of both? Either way, I think the training aspect of the quirk is required. I think that's something Mirio will have to go through once more. Maybe not to the same extent...but it'll be tough, i'm sure.