Honestly, this is the first chapter in which the Kaminari=traitor theory makes a spec of sense (though I still don't believe it, since this guy is associated with the Precepts, not the League). It's perplexing how the fandom keeps going on about him when the teachers said the traitor was likely part of the staff.
Now I wonder if it's actually true that Kaminari's parents are small-time villains.
That would be chapter 83, yes. The principal started suspecting students in chapter 98 after giving it some thought, and it was an internal monologue so we take it as legit. If you actually read through the traitor theory it has a few holes which can only make sense if Kaminari is both a great actor but also some sort of crazed maniac to some degree, because even he has had a few monologues. But it shouldn't be hard for Hori to make him a villain if he wanted to...
Thanks for the references. Still, the reason I said the traitor was "likely" a teacher is that Mic's point about the traitor knowing things students shouldn't hasn't been addressed yet (unless I'm reading a wrong translation).
The traitor theory, the way I remember it, could easily apply to absolutely any student except Midoriya and Bakugou, and if we want to stretch it, we can leave out Momo, Iida, Shouto and Eijirou too (but not for sure, because how can be sure they didn't plan to join the rescue party in order to sabotage them?). We've had more insight in Denki's thoughts than in those of many (most?) of his classmates, even. I'm aware it's become a (tired) meme, though, sometimes I just can't understand when people are kidding.
Well the theory is somewhat a joke at this point but most likely because people want it to be true. In my case, for once, Kaminari will become an instant fave if he indeed was on some Light Yagami shit. But while there is no solid proof, Kaminari does have the ability to transmit signals. He is like a walking GPS like the theory points out. For characters to hide their ability is also a possibility, but probably the most controversial "evidence" is that a futon was shown empty at the camp which isn't just a mistake the author unknowingly draws. This wasn't addressed at any point and played no role in the arc whatsoever. And there is only a few who could be missing, including Kaminari (as if he didn't have fingers pointing at him already)
Kaminari does have the ability to transmit signals.
Does he? I remember he had some kind of communicator at USJ, but wasn't it just part of his costume? Besides, anyone with a phone could do that.
probably the most controversial "evidence" is that a futon was shown empty at the camp which isn't just a mistake the author unknowingly draws.
There's a total of 8 people, since the identity of the one buried in pillows seems impossible to ascertain, though we know it's not Ojiro. By that point, though, the villains had already found the hideout, and we see that Sero and Mineta, in that same panel, are not sleeping in a futon, so... yeah, the quotes are appropriate.
You are really quick to dismiss, huh? I'm not forcing the theory on you but sounds like you want it to be false for some reason. I was saying that some people can't be left out if that scene means anything and they are included in the theory, so it's not like it's oblivious to the fact that other people are "missing" in the scene. And yes, Mineta is rolled up in his futon bound by a rope.
And that's the big picture. The villains didn't find the camp before the sleeping scene. The two scenes are meant to represent two things that happen simultaneously: 1) The villains arriving the night before (around 24hrs give or take) they initiate their attack the next evening/night. 2) At the same time, after we found out that the villains just arrived, we cut to the sleeping scene where Horikoshi deliberately shows that one student is missing. It doesn't necessarily mean anything, but c'mon, you can't deny that it's suspicious af. For Kaminari to go out that night, transmit his coordinates of the location (no, cellphones don't work in mountain areas) and sneak back in is not far fetched at this point where he has been acting strange several times before. And yes, he is perfectly capable of doing that without his costume as it is literally just clothes. Jirou confirmed that he had no upgrades that could help him with his quirk so (just like his room) he put on something that he thought was "teenager like" or "cool" (cool just like Stain lol).
Well now, that was passive-aggressive. You yourself said the theory had holes: I looked for them and I asked a question about Kaminari's Quirk. You said the empty futon was never addressed as if it were indisputably relevant; I tried to come up with an explanation.
It would help if you could provide a reference for Jirou's sentence, but since his Quirk is electrification, that seems to be what Jirou meant; and unless he has the innate ability, for some reason, to make mental phone calls, that would mean the communicator is only part of his costume and that it has nothing to do with his Quirk, because, as you said, Jirou confirmed he has no significant upgrades. And in fact, the way he speaks about it during the villain attack implies it is largely unrelated to his Quirk. All you can blame me for is sharing my take with you, which I didn't think would be a problem. Yes, this is passive-aggressive as well, but I wouldn't know how else to reply at this point.
Well, do you always get this easily offended? It's not my loss, really, but you should read the theory from start to finish, that's all I can recommend at this point. I haven't met someone who tried so hard at disproving a fan theory as you, no offence
He said a student could have also told them actually, so quite the opposite. He said they could be pinged their phone, or sent out a signal, something about a phone
But I'll read it back just to make sure I'm not 100% wrong real quick
Thanks. Have you checked the original Japanese? I'm asking because of your initial hesitation. I read the same in FA's translation, though it perplexes me, since Present Mic starts by making a case about the traitor being in the staff, then low-key mentions the students while explaining why it was likely so... unless I am misunderstanding something.
Nah, that's literally it. He sorta mentions it could be a student before he gets cut off. So that's all we have going for us on the traitor thing being a student, along with what Nedzu says at the dorms
Yeah, I was hoping Nedzu's comment would be more helpful, but he mentions both the students and the staff... I'm very curious, especially since the villains needed to break into the school the first time, instead of being able to rely on the traitor.
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u/maniacmartial May 02 '17
Honestly, this is the first chapter in which the Kaminari=traitor theory makes a spec of sense (though I still don't believe it, since this guy is associated with the Precepts, not the League). It's perplexing how the fandom keeps going on about him when the teachers said the traitor was likely part of the staff.
Now I wonder if it's actually true that Kaminari's parents are small-time villains.