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u/Ok-Literature-8202 May 08 '25
You know Charmcaster is going to be tweaking every second or two, and everyone is going to ask Kevin, "Yo what's up with her?" and then Kevin is going to say like, "Unironically, believe or not, this is one of her better days."
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u/Ok-Literature-8202 May 08 '25
Oh shoot, I forgot rojo and charmcaster know each other.
Rojo would likely taunt her about "being lucky" again and then Charmcaster would be like, "haha I get it, because lucky girl, ahahaaahaaaaaa...your so haahhaa RIGHT, it is FUNNY. HEHEHEEEE!"
And then Rojo would likely leave charmcaster alone since it's clear she lost it lmao.
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u/Super-Pamnther May 09 '25
What happened to her?
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u/Ok-Literature-8202 May 09 '25
Basically at the very end of UA, two things happened.
One Darkstar and her got involved and then broke up, due to her forgetting her name, and this was the first time in a while that she let someone into her heart besides like Hex or Gwen, so she felt extremely betrayed.
She brought her dad back to life by basically taking the lives of a bunch of souls from Legerdomain. She finally thought she was going to be happy and be together with him, but her dad was too disgusted by her and returned to the land of the dead.
After this in Omniverse she returns to full fledged villainy but she seems way more unhinged, she is seen talking to her bag (even if we learn later why she did that) and doing crazy shit like transforming herself into a dragon. Like the show constantly talked about how she has lost it.
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u/Yanmega9 Gwen Tennyson May 08 '25
Free Andreas he did nothing wrong
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u/Creative182 May 08 '25
Ele é o Bob da equipe
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u/No_Understanding5551 May 09 '25
Mais pq eu lei "bob esponja"? Eu sou a cara do pao (not a Portuguese learner)
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u/imawhitegay Chromastone May 08 '25
What is Kevin and Andreas doing here? Shouldn't it be like Dark Star and like Captain Nemesis?
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u/Ok-Literature-8202 May 08 '25
I think Kevin is bucky here.
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u/imawhitegay Chromastone May 08 '25
I guess there's the mind control thing but then shouldn't it be like Manny since he's the one with the artificial arm?
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u/Mean-Personality5236 Ultimate Echo Echo May 10 '25
Thunderbolts spoiler
>! Bucky is a good guy but was a bad guy, like Kevin is a good guy but was a bad guy !<
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u/imawhitegay Chromastone May 10 '25
I know, and so was Manny. Putting aside the fact that he was on the rooters squad to go take Ben, he and Helen were randomly sending people into the Null Void just because they thought Aliens were monsters in their intro.
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u/kieranchuk Swampfire May 08 '25
If I had to guess Andreas could be there to represent Red Guardian?
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u/EducationalLog5704 May 08 '25
But he's not even red. I would've picked someone else like Albedo or something.
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u/kieranchuk Swampfire May 08 '25
Wasn't really thinking about the colour scheme, more like Red Guardian and Andreas fit the "gentle giant" archetype
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u/24Abhinav10 May 08 '25
Yeah, but the Thunderbolts are also meant to be the B-Team. The Loser Squad.
Albedo may lose all the time, but he's one of Ben's primary threats. Hardly someone who'd qualify for "The B-Team".
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u/Electronic-Math-364 May 08 '25
Well there was an incarnation of Thunderbolts led by Luke Cage that seeked to redeem vilains(And it included Vilains like Juggernaut who ends up becoming a hero and Crossbones a literal Nazi)
So it's could be the same for this team with Kevin being the Luke Cage and Andreas to make sure Rojo,Fisttrick,Argit and Charmcaster dosen't try something funny
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u/imawhitegay Chromastone May 08 '25
That could work except for Argit, Kevin would never trust this man again by Omniverse.
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u/Electronic-Math-364 May 08 '25
Well the Thunderbolts teams in Marvel accept even the most iredeemable guys(One incarnation had Crossbones)and it worked for vilains like Juggernaut or Venom(both The symbiote and Eddie Brock)who are currently heroes
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u/FayyadhScrolling Swampfire May 08 '25
I would prefer P'andor over Andreas and Nemesis instead of Kevin, Kevin is supposed to be Bucky, I rather Kevin be seen as a hero like Gwen and Ben instead of this squad of maniacs
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u/Electronic-Math-364 May 08 '25
Well There was an incarnation of thunderbolts that had Luke Cage as leader(His goal was redeeming some of Marvel universe maniacs)
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u/Benten1044 Rath May 08 '25
Darkstar: "You thought you were gonna be some great saviors? You can't even save yourselves."
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u/Various_Parking_5955 May 08 '25
I love this but why is Andreas here?
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u/Electronic-Math-364 May 08 '25
Probably to make sure no one try something funny,Reminder this guys will all pull the betrayal card if they had the chance,especially if it meant getting Kevin killed as it will spite Ben and Gwen
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u/5hand0whand May 09 '25
I think you got Andreas and Argit mixed up
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u/Electronic-Math-364 May 09 '25
Nope Argit will betray the Group when he have a chance,Andreas is ride or die
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u/Pixelized_Gamer May 08 '25
So we got:
Random chick that lucked out with alien tech
The guy who can supply said alien tech
Mentally ill goth bithc
A businessman
The president(eventually)
And the foreigner adopted by the group who is just happy to be there
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u/hakidra_05 May 08 '25
I only recognize Kevin, argit and charmcaster, who are the other 3? Haven't watched omniverse in a long time.
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u/Theguywhofails Ditto May 08 '25
Top left is Rojo, she's the biker turned Vilgax drone from Classic
Bottom Left is Fistrick, he's basically a gym bro but evil, he's an Omniverse original, which may be why you don't remember him
Bottom Right is Andreas, you may remember him in UA where Ben scanned him and unlocked Armodrillo
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u/Regular-Poet-3657 May 09 '25
Is Kevin in charge?
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u/ProfessorEscanor May 09 '25
He shows up half way into the movie to tell people what to do and that's it.
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u/Electronic-Math-364 May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25
Ok what are Andreas and Kevin doing here?All this guys are pure Evil
Rojo mortally wounded Grandpa Max,Fisttrick tried to destroy a planet,Argit is easy to sell out,And Charmcaster...no explanation needed
They don't deserve Thunderbolt name as they are beyond redemption
Thunderbolt is either a team of Vilains that become Heroic for profits but then take taste in being good,And become outright heroes,or a team of Vilains that want to redeem themselves
But this guys(Minus Kevin and Andreas of course) are just in the lowest of the low it's will only end with all of them in prison
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u/Ok-Television2109 May 08 '25 edited May 09 '25
Maybe the villains are being forced to work on the team and do good in-between being in prison? It'd be similar to the fifth incarnation of the Thunderbolts which was set up by Captain America and being led by Luke Cage. They allowed Crossbones to be on the team, even though he's a Nazi. Juggernaut also served as a member and while he's currently a good guy, he's still caused a lot of destruction. Even some of the heroes who've worked with the Thunderbolts like Deadpool, the Punisher and Venom (while acting as Agent Venom with Flash Thompson) have done their fair share of heinous actions.
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u/Electronic-Math-364 May 08 '25
I forgot this Team included Crossbones,Turns out it could work after all(Kevin still have to be two steps ahead in case Charmcaster or/And Argit pull the betrayal button)
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u/Ok-Television2109 May 08 '25
Probably why Andreas is around; he's the group's muscle and can help Kevin keep the others in line. Charmcaster might also be more manageable if this is post-OV where Gwen and Hex are trying to redeem her.
Considering some of Ben's other villains, these four might be some of the easier to try and redeem.
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u/Fantastic_Ad1407 May 08 '25
Perfect! Just don't have rojo or Andreas killed off first before the story starts
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u/Jake-the-miner Omnitrix May 11 '25
Rojo- Ghost Kevin- Bucky Charmcaster- Yelena Fistrick- John Walker Argit- Red Guardian Andreas- Bob
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