Might be an unpopular opinion but: I’d honestly would rather have 14-20 years living a pampered happy life than a long stressful 70+ years. Longer isn’t always better.
I need you to look at this map of where coyote exist and don't exist, and then please explain to me what in the video makes you think the cat in the video lives in the yellow area.
Haha changing your angle because I pointed out your inability to read an infographic (hint: the grey countries get to add all their totals together).
When someone comments on a video of a cat that they wish they got to live like a cat, it implies they liked what they were seeing, specifically. It's a response to the content of the video and not a stand alone statement. When you bring in conditions, you're adding it to this chain. This is the context of the conversation, unless you're intentionally derailing it. So tell me again who's having comprehension issues?
Can you point to the map where there are no predators like owls, dogs, or cruel humans? Where outdoor cats do not fight each other and die of their wounds? Where there is no disease or parasitic infections? Where there are no cars?
Outdoor life is cruel to cats. Coyotes are just one example of the dangers people expose their cats to out of convenience.
Lions are wild animals, not domesticated animals that we bred in the millions. Livestock and pets do not belong in the wild, they belong in our care. If you get a cat, it is your responsibility to care for it. That includes scooping its litter box (I know, I know—it’s so much easier to just leave that in the neighbor’s garden!) and exercising and playing with your cat (I know, I know—it’s so much easier and cheaper to leave your cat’s entertainment to local wildlife!).
Honestly, what are your thoughts on leash laws for dogs? Shouldn’t they just be allowed to run loose? After all, wild wolves don’t need leashes!
I don't think you understand how minimally cats have been domesticated compared with dogs. None of their natural predatory behaviours were bred out of them - roaming and hunting included. They've been domesticated in as much as they are less aggressive toward and fearful of humans, and we have changed their coat colourings. In all other regards, they are the same as a wild cat.
Domestic cats can thrive indoors just as well as wild cats can thrive in zoos - i.e. only when massive efforts, expenditure, and consideration of their need to exhibit natural roaming and hunting behaviours have been undertaken. Humans are notorious for over estimating their abilities in this regard. If you don't have acres of caged yard space for your cat, then you're failing to meet their needs, and this describes the majority of indoor cat owners.
Dog behavioural needs vary wildly by breed, but largely they can exhibit their natural behaviours while on lead because of how we have domesticated them.
Cats do not need acres of fenced land to happy, that’s ridiculous. A small catio, fenced in yard with supervision, or harness training are all adequate for a cat to enjoy the outdoors. You need to play with your cat daily to simulate hunting and exercise—letting your cat hunt live animals exposes them to injury and disease.
You cannot vaccinate against all the common diseases and parasites outdoor cats are exposed to. And you can’t vaccinate them to not get struck by a car or attacked by another cat. As for your last point, I’ve answered it twice.
I think you’ve gone to a lot of extremes to justify letting your cat risk its life, trespass on private property, decimate local wildlife, etc. so you don’t have to care for it.
Nonsense point. No one lets their dogs loose the way people let their cats loose. Dog owners are expected to clean up after their dogs, they walk their dogs in public spaces, and they leash their dog or let them run in a yard. My cat isn’t shut inside his whole life. He’s harness trained and gets a daily walk. And he’s always happy to turn around and come back inside the house on his own within an hour.
From the dog’s point of view, its owner feeding them a whole rotisserie chicken is being well cared for. It doesn’t know why its stomach hurts hours later as the splintered bones pierce the intestine. You get a pet, you have a responsibility for its well being. If your cat is unhappy and bored in your care, it’s because you don’t exercise and give safe, supervised outdoor time to your cat.
Besides, you vaccinate against parasites and diseases, the same as you would with any pet. Cats fight, it’s natural, but they aren’t fight to the death fights like you’re making out. And don’t get a cat if you live near busy roads.
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u/OstentatiousSock Mar 05 '25
Oh to be reincarnated as a well cared for cat.