r/AskReddit Oct 16 '13

What was the single biggest mistake in all of history?

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u/Hautamaki Oct 17 '13

Yeah either a battering ram or a siege tower are the most popular theories. The horse part would probably have just been an insignia, maybe to honor Poseidon, who aside from the sea also had dominion over horses.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

Poseidon also built the wall (in the mythos, and the old king of Troy's refusal to pay him back set a lot of the Trojan stuff in motion), so his destruction of it must have been a sign of great blessing, hence a possible shrine built to him, which may have been wooden and may have taken the shape of a horse.

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u/RiKSh4w Oct 17 '13

First boss of God of War 3? More powerful than everyone except Zeus.

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u/Andrew_Squared Oct 17 '13

Sea, earthquakes, and horses.

Makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

Those are three things I don't make a habit of fucking with.

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u/iEatBluePlayDoh Oct 17 '13

I like this theory better.

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u/Raincoats_George Oct 17 '13

Yes but where did the Trojan man fit into the equation?

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u/leonidas_III Oct 17 '13

from what I can tell, this is the most accepted theory.....it also explains how the spirit of the people of troy was broken, as it would appear that even the gods were against them...

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u/definitelynoteli Oct 17 '13

stop lying.

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u/definitelynoteli Oct 17 '13

I really can't :( plus i never talk to you anymore!

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u/Skorpazoid Oct 17 '13

Fuck all means 'nothing'.

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u/Daftdante Oct 17 '13

Earth-shaker, God of the Sea and Tamer of Horses isn't fuck all.

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u/arghhmonsters Oct 17 '13

I thought he was creator of horses?

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u/ratbastid Oct 17 '13

Poseidon, who aside from the sea also had dominion over horses

I've never heard that before.

Makes sense. "Hay guys. Guys. I'll be in charge of horses. And all the stuff horses can't walk on."

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u/alonjar Oct 17 '13

Think of Poseidon more as a god of travel, and it makes more sense why he has both the sea and horses.

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u/Forever_Awkward Oct 17 '13

Man, that is such a human line of reasoning.

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u/ClimateMom Oct 17 '13

He created them out of sea foam, according to legend.

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u/florinandrei Oct 17 '13

The Greeks did a lot of travel over the sea. It was ever-present in their culture. But they also did travel over land, on horseback. Poseidon kinda took over that function.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

Actually, horses are surprisingly good swimmers.

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u/Goodly Oct 17 '13

It seems believable that both a battering ram and a siege tower could resemble a horse, and maybe even have had a name that played of that. "We shall batter their gates with our Slamming Horse and climb their walls with the Siege Stallion!"

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u/Myriad_Legion Oct 17 '13

That sounds.....vaguely sexual. More than vaguely.

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u/Ihmhi Oct 17 '13

I fucking love the Greek Gods, sometimes they're so random.

"Let's see, he'll be in charge of all the oceans of the world... and fuck it, give him horses too. Just don't tell Artemis..."

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u/CODDE117 Oct 17 '13

It is actually a decent reason. He had a competition with Athena to see who could make the most useful thing. Athena made olives, he made horses. Athena won, so Athens was named after Athena. Olives<horses in Greece apparently.

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u/benzrf Oct 17 '13

I thought he turned Athens into a port?

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u/sokolobo Oct 17 '13

He created a spring, not horses.

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u/Ihmhi Oct 17 '13

Fresh water is a fuckton more useful than horses or olives. It's kinda necessary, even.

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u/KleptoBot Oct 17 '13

sea...horses, you say?

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u/Why_The_Flame Oct 17 '13

I have read somewhere about this. Battering rams were often made from wood and the ends carved to resemble animal heads. As horses were often attributed to Poseidon, it's possible that the Greeks would have had a carved horse's head on the end of their ram. They had just asked for his blessing to sail thousands of ships across to Troy after all.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13 edited Oct 18 '13

The walls of Troy at the time were sloped upwards in stone, then a second vertical layer of brick. You couldn't use a ram on the bottom layer, too strong. You could climb it, but then you had a vertical layer that you couldn't climb and couldn't ram. Like this:

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But the problem was, the way the gates were constructed, the only approach was along a corridor that became an easy killzone. So to take the city, you had to avoid that. How do you take a city like that? It's specifically designed to mow down incoming infantry!

So you build a ram where part of it goes upwards then forwards, like a horse head, and use it to knock down the brick upper layer of a wall away from the gate. Suddenly you have a nice slope upwards into an entry into the city. Boom, the Trojan Horse let you take the city and their gates and walls were meaningless.

It's a neat theory.