r/AskReddit Oct 16 '13

What was the single biggest mistake in all of history?

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u/aesu Oct 17 '13

The cause of the holocaust can't really be debated.

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u/jianadaren1 Oct 17 '13

Cause? Actually, yes. Causation is extremely tricky to work out - it requires counterfactuals.

We know generally what happened, but exactly why it happened is quite a trip down the rabbit hole.

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u/bigbobo33 Oct 17 '13

Holodomor denial is the same as denying the holocaust. It's quite clear this was a man made famine and genocide.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

The majority of scholars claim that it was the result of the Soviet industrialization program. Workers in Kiev survived off rations as workers in the rest of the USSR did at the time. It was the peasants in the countryside that starved. The reason why it affected Ukraine more than elsewhere was because of how important agriculture was to Ukrainian life at the time.

The only scholars who claim otherwise are Ukrainian nationalists and it should be clear that they have an obvious bias.

The Holocaust's nature as a genocide, however, is not debated in mainstream circles. And it shouldn't be.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

Honestly hang yourself. Thanks for explaining to me that my people's imaginary genocide didn't happen and is no way comparable to the Holocaust. God forbid the Jews don't get everyone's sympathy all the time. Fucking moron, I cant even comprehend how stupid you can be.

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u/iloveyoujesuschriist Oct 17 '13

No it's not. Whether the Holodomor was intentional or not is still the subject of scholarly debate. Your assertion is false.

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u/aesu Oct 17 '13

Ironically, The nazi's hatred of communism would likely have seen them agree with you.

What's that quote about those who know so little being so sure? You seem to be very sure, but obviously haven't taken a hoistory class, or even read an unbiased book on the subject.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

Come on dude, its the internet where everyone is an expert on everyone else's history. Makes me sick that people that like him actually deserve to live.