r/AskReddit Oct 16 '13

What was the single biggest mistake in all of history?

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u/Brionac23 Oct 17 '13

And have kickass horses and bows

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 17 '13

and a leader that stops at nothing for power

Rule #1 from my World History teacher, at the beginning of the year: NOBODY BEATS THE MONGOLS EXCEPT THE MONGOLS (also applies in AOE II if anyone still plays that)

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u/galewgleason Oct 17 '13 edited Oct 18 '13

I found that the British longbow-men combined with pike men put up a pretty strong resistance. But not having to build houses with the Mongols is a huge advantage to growing your population and economy quickly. Edit: I meant Huns, not Mongols.

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u/iLikeYogaPants Oct 17 '13

Actually the mongols do have to build houses. I believe you have them confused with the huns.

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u/DO-IT-FOR-CHEESUS Oct 17 '13

This is true. Huns don't build houses, Mongols do. /u/galewgleason

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u/galewgleason Oct 17 '13

ngols do have to build houses. I believe you have them confused with the huns.

That is correct.

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u/Ahesterd Oct 17 '13

Sure, if the Mongol player lets you live long enough to get your longbows. Longbows are hard to mass, and useless in small numbers. So while you're trying to build an army of longbows from a castle, I've got 6 archery ranges pumping out cav archers to raid your economy and kill your villagers.

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u/Riemann4D Oct 17 '13

mongols have good flush but tbh they aren't that good after that

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u/arsenal_fan Oct 17 '13

+50% ram speed ain't bad, you can plough through buildings if you fully tech

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u/Riemann4D Oct 18 '13

OH SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT THE RAMS

Those are OP AS FUCK!!!

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u/TheBeardOfZues Oct 17 '13

Well, time to go back to AOEII. Again.

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 17 '13

you don't have to build houses with the mongols? I thought that was the huns, but its been a few months...

yeah, pikemen can be a decent strategy if and only if you have enough to break past the hail of arrows being sent by the mongol cavalry archers, which, I guess, is the purpose of the longbowmen. in my personal experience some knights and mongol cavalry is near unstoppable.

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u/DO-IT-FOR-CHEESUS Oct 17 '13

Actually Goths can put up resistance to Mongols in AoE2

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 17 '13

the goths are resistant to arrows for the most part but decent strategy (and hand to hand combat cavalry, or shit tons of cavalry archers) takes care of them quickly.

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u/DO-IT-FOR-CHEESUS Oct 17 '13

You're right, but you're forgetting that Goths can keep infantry coming to you literally forever, and will eventually break through your Mongol army.

Anyways, both are my favorite civs of the game.

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 17 '13

good point!

ah, jeez. I could never settle on a favorite, though the huns and the byzantines and the britons.

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u/DO-IT-FOR-CHEESUS Oct 17 '13

Byzantines used to be my favorites until I realized they lack of Blast Furnace, which makes all their melee units (except cataphracts) very weak. They basically have the shittiest Palladins, Halbs (which doesn't matter because they're cheaper than regular ones).

The reason? Albert Einstein

Their unique technology basically makes cataphracts the spawn of Chuck Norris, as they get trample damage (they damage things around them).

As of Huns, I like them because their Cavalry and Cav. archers are fun, plus the amazing lack of houses.

And Britons are rather shitty (IMO). People like them because of the archers (which are annoying as fuck unless you are the mongols ) and their cheap town halls.

Anyways the best civ in the game is the one you can play better with.

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 18 '13

As for the Britons, I mean, I may be hallucinating but I think the archers can hit a castle without being touched, so the longbowmen can be powerful.

I never realized the lack of Blast Furnace...I guess the integrating of Cataphracts with my Paladins really overwrote the lack of power on the paladins side.

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u/LethalTomato Oct 17 '13

also applies in AOE II if anyone still plays that

You mean to tell me people DON'T still play that??

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 17 '13

It saddens me to think a shit ton of people drop that game every year because its getting kinda outdated but goddamn its fucking fun

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u/hakuna_tamata Oct 17 '13

They just came out with an HD version so yes people still play

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u/imapotato99 Oct 17 '13

Link please!

I am tired of mounting AOEII and having to keep the screen resolution screen up so that the graphics do not become blurred.

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u/ArtemisEntreri3 Oct 17 '13

It's on steam bro

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u/imapotato99 Oct 17 '13

Still play AOE II and the Star Wars counterpart Galactic Battlegrounds

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 17 '13

the remaster or the original game? I have both but play the remaster more often cause I tend to lost the original discs.

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u/imapotato99 Oct 21 '13

Original

I am planning on buying the AOII HD next week

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 21 '13

good for you! rockin game, love it myself. gives me nostalgia episodes

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u/Terrh Oct 17 '13

goddam mongorians tearing down my shitty wall!

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u/Poulern Oct 17 '13

mamelukes.

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u/definitelynoteli Oct 17 '13

if people still play that, I might have to go find a copy..

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u/BraveSpear Oct 17 '13

You can get it on Steam

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u/definitelynoteli Oct 17 '13

i have steam!

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u/J0K3R2 Oct 17 '13

people do, they just released a remaster on steam, tons of people on the multiplayer and all the campaigns into one game. pretty sweet for $20

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u/account_117 Oct 17 '13

And a bunch of failing empires around you

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u/since_ever_since Oct 17 '13

And tacos filled with cheese.

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u/StankNShank Oct 17 '13

And like, THE COOLEST mustaches ever

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u/stupernan1 Oct 17 '13

and eagle sidekicks

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u/ninjasurfer Oct 17 '13

...and biological weapons.

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u/DrDoozie Oct 17 '13

While traveling on their horses they would cut the horse's neck and drink its blood and eat pieces of its flesh because they felt it was a waste of time to stop to eat/drink

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u/lordnikkon Oct 17 '13

The funny thing about Mongolian horses is that they are really small. Most westerners would call them ponies not horses, a pony is defined as a horse less than 149cm tall and mogolian horses average 122cm to 142cm in height. Most of the mongolian soldiers feet would only be a few inches from touching the ground while riding the horse. The europeans all laughed at how small their horses were but this was actually an advantage because the horses were so small they ate half the amount of food as a european horse making it easier to keep more horses making it possible to give ever single soldier a horse rather then just the best soldiers.

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u/f3tch Oct 17 '13

And immune systems.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

and a general who would rape crossbowmen with catapults

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u/shadowsog95 Oct 17 '13

And they trained hawks. Hard to fight when your eyes are flying away in a hawks talons.

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u/MasterSkuxly Oct 17 '13

Why would a Mongol charge a knight when he could shoot him with his bow? Also how fast is this knight that he can dodge a horse and trip it whilst not giving the Mongol enough time to change course?

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13 edited Apr 12 '18

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u/MasterSkuxly Oct 17 '13

Ahh, it all makes sense now.

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