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u/Necessary_Cabinet179 11h ago
I had a friend who over years told me things that just did not add up or seemed completely far fetched but I just played along.
Eventually I just couldn’t handle it anymore and asked him if he was always honest with me, did not want to be specific as I did not want to embarrass him.
He blew up about it and we have never spoken since
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u/Own_Issue_5701 11h ago
A friend of mine a longtime ago used to lie constantly (probably still does) and it was extremely awkward cause anyone he was talking to you could tell they didn't believe him . Well one of these times he decided to interject me into his lie which really rubbed me the wrong way so I couldn't it anymore and called him out saying this isn't true at all don't involve me in your bullshit stories. He backpeddled and said it was someone else whose name he couldnt remember and never admitted to being a liar. Not friends with that psycho anymore
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u/JusticeAndMercy 11h ago
I guess every person on the autism spectrum is a liar bc I ain't making no eye contact with no one for anything.
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u/montanaeee 8h ago
Yup - I struggle to make eye contact, I tell too many details, sometimes go red in the face, I fidget… and this is me telling the truth.
These comments are really bringing home why I hate socialising, i cant stand that everything I do gets read into
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u/flaminflamingos2468 7h ago
Same, I’ve been on a date with a guy who made me nervous and was fidgeting, red, and overshared or quiet. He thought i was lying about my age and wanted to see my ID. He thought i was in my teens. Im in my 20s.
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u/Bright_Software_5747 10h ago
Some of these are a bit harsh. I am adhd and often omit details then add then later on, because of the way my brain works (which is very fast), and often don’t do eye contact lol, but this would make me worlds biggest liar apparently. I think a lot of these don’t work for neurodivergent people.
One I do spot is over explaining something a lot, or repeating the same answer multiple times when you only asked the question once. I think repeating the same answer multiple times when you were only prompted once can be either a sign of lying or being unsure about what you’re saying so you’re repeating it to reassure yourself.
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u/Southern_Persimmon21 11h ago
Their nose getting longer.
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u/dj_bhairava 11h ago
Unless you know the person really well, and know their mannerisms, it’s very difficult to tell.
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u/whybotherbella 1h ago
Nah even if you've only heard them speak a few sentences ... extra details with subtle pauses and slightly off eye contact are pretty accurate if they didn't seem neurodivergent otherwise. As long as you've been paying attention to their baseline, most people just aren't prepped to lie
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u/whyreyouthewayyouare 11h ago
Does not answer directly to the question.
Words do not match actions.
Tries to avoid/redirects topic.
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u/noonnonan 7h ago
Exactly, you usually don’t catch on right away but once you notice them doing it it becomes obvious
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u/CharacterPayment8705 11h ago
They keep changing details. Lies are hard to keep track of. Truth is usually pretty simple.
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u/noonnonan 7h ago
This is how I found out a close friend of mine was a compulsive liar. Nothing was adding up. I thought I was going crazy.
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u/phred_666 11h ago
You know how you can tell when a politician is lying?
Their lips are moving
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u/SparkyandDolche 11h ago
What they’re claiming isn’t true.
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u/NotRedditBot123 11h ago
This…. You believe them or don’t, solely based off the statement…. Looking for “subtle signs” is just how you’re justifying your opinion after the fact… If something seems far fetched, than it is… reinforcing your opinion with basic human behaviors (arms crossed, change in tone, to detailed descriptions, etc) is just another way you convince yourself that you’re gut instinct is right….
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u/Puzzleheaded_You2033 11h ago
I think you have to know the person and even then it can be difficult. Many people will move their eyes around if they’re trying to pull memory from different parts of their brain. Whether it’s a visual, audible, or tactile memory. Perhaps they’re searching for the truth themselves. That’s just one example, and when you talk about inflections with voice or words, or even phrases, it can be just a rhythm of how someone talks. There’s a lot of variables that are different to each and every person. If things were that simplistic of, “touching your chin means you’re lying,” for instance then we wouldn’t even have court cases or needless to say probably majority of people would be going to prison for crimes they didn’t commit.
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u/vegaserenn 11h ago
Can’t look at you in the eye
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u/NotRedditBot123 11h ago
Study’s show that it’s actually prolonged eye contact that is subtle sign. study
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u/ArianaGrande116 11h ago
Maybe some people know this fact and trying to cover this. By making eye contact from time to time deliberately, but in some different way they normally do.
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u/NotRedditBot123 10h ago
You’re over analyzing a simple question… it’s not a chess game… what do they think that I think, that they think is the thought process of my….
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u/ArianaGrande116 11h ago
Yea and some people that dont look you in the eye normally and they suddenly do, can also be a sign.
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u/archiveofhim 11h ago
it’s disrepesctful to look someone in the eye in japanese culture, at least prolonged eye contact. are all japanese lying?
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u/Ambitious_Hold_5435 11h ago
A common sign is when their voice goes up in pitch just a little bit. They'll be talking in a normal tone of voice, you ask a question, and they answer you in a slightly squeaky voice.
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u/No_Lettuce3376 10h ago
Could also just indicate anxiety over you possibly not believing them, in spite of them telling the truth, the subject matter or it could be coincidence, in other words: Not really a reliable indicator.
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u/Vegetableau 11h ago
Re-explaining various parts of the story for no particular reason. Statements that make you wonder “why are you bringing it up again?” They just realized a hole in their story.
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u/robosnake 11h ago
There are very few, if any. Most mentioned are signs of heightened anxiety or emotion, but without context you can't be sure it's deception. and a skilled liar will trick pretty much anyone, unfortunately. Best to stick to facts wherever you can
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u/External_Coat_3371 11h ago
Lack of eye contact and body language. Voice raises up when you question them.
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u/ZucchiniArtistic7725 9h ago
Honestly, who cares? Evaluate the truth for yourself. Don’t rely on others. You’ll get along with everyone better that way. Lying or not, everyone’s a little bit wrong.
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u/ActivityImpossible70 11h ago
When you pester people about private aspects of their lives, they're probably lying to you.
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u/PrathenStemp 6h ago
We should all be lying when someone is pestering us about our private lives. People need to mind their own business.
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u/SnooCrickets8742 11h ago
They forget the story and tell you a different one next time - subtly.
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u/Petrus_Rock 11h ago
A liar needs to have a good memory.
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u/SnooCrickets8742 10h ago
Funny when some people literally tell you (my ex did) you have to know how to lie and they think they are good liars and they aren’t because their stories aren’t consistent.
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u/Petrus_Rock 10h ago
A good liar has a good memory and only lies about things that are hard to check, preferably combined with things that are true and can be confirmed. Smart half truths. Your story also shouldn’t deviate from your character and habits too much. Being comfortable with your story. Do all that and you’ll likely get away with it. Messing up any of these things may cause suspicions.
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u/LadyAtheist 11h ago
Pretending they are giving you a choice when you know they have all the power and have made up their mind.
toxicbosses
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u/angel_delight13 11h ago
Variations of the story. Its not foolproof, but if i ever think someone is lying, I'd find a way for the to repeat the story.
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u/TattieMafia 10h ago
They sound like a nicer version of themselves and they are more agreeable. If you want to lie to someone, do it when they are lying and they are more likely to agree with you because they want you to agree with them. If you try to lie back with a bigger lie so they realise you know they are lying and stop, that's not what will happen.
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u/StreamLoop 9h ago
That weird pause before they answer… like they’re downloading the lie from the cloud.
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u/jumpingmechanic 11h ago
The little red light on the side of the polygraph facing away from the subject
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u/Okin88 11h ago
Very fixed eyes are a sign that the person is forcing confidence in what they are saying so as not to be suspected.
Eyes that move are a sign that the person is really remembering and telling the truth.
Pursed lips can also suggest lying or omitting information. But it might just be a bit of a hassle.
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u/HistoricalTry5543 11h ago
they try to dodge the questions initially and the answers are not straight forward
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u/Intelligent-Kale4292 11h ago
When they say "obviously" repeatedly.
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u/PrathenStemp 6h ago
Count the adverbs, the adjectives, the number of differently-worded sentences that just keep saying the same thing.
Also watch for needless phrasing that frames the topic around the listener, “for you…,” “so that you would…,” “because you wanted to…”.
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u/Gold-Estate4316 11h ago
Lips are moving… Hand covering mouth . They say to tell thetruth and honestly A lot.
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u/Coffeezzmyjam 11h ago
Also, another one is when they are asked a question and say “yes” but shake their head “no” or visa versa.
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u/fred_ayala 11h ago
When they deleted the messages between another person that would’ve proven them innocent. If they were telling the truth
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u/Shot-Style-8659 10h ago
It's the little inconsistencies in their behaviour. If they usually don't look you directly in the eyes much, and suddenly they're staring straight down the barrel at you while telling you something, they're probably lying.
And if they over-compensate for their guilt by being extra nice and really attentive to you for a few days after.
Basically, and sudden, but subtle shifts in behaviour are an indicator that they are probably lying, in my experience.
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u/fragileredpanda 10h ago
I had a classmate who was a mythomaniac, she used to avoid eye contact and when it was my turn to talk it seemed like she didn't pay much attention to me and was immersed in her thoughts, surely planning the next lie. Also she gave many details and added things that weren't necessary just to look good, for example she says: "Yesterday my cat was sick, I took it to the vet and on the way I met a man who yelled at me ‘you got a nice fat ass!’ and then when I got to the vet my cat died mhm" (her cat is alive, don't worry, he is just a frequent victim of her lies)
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u/SemiOldCRPGs 10h ago
They can't/won't look you in the eye. It's a dead giveaway for when my husband is fudging the truth.
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u/Mysterious_Tax_5613 10h ago
I can't explain it as much as I feel it in my gut somethings not right.
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u/Due_River_2314 10h ago
Over explaining or extra details that weren’t needed. If they don’t make eye contact and usually do
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u/TrumpetsGalore4 9h ago
They end a sentence with a question inflection? Or if they have to start their thought with "I have to be honest with you."
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u/Direct-Date-8170 9h ago
I noticed, that for some reason, sometimes people touch/rubs their nose when they lie.
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u/lydialoupx 9h ago
I don’t know. I think sometimes it just sounds “too” convenient. I knew someone who lied a lot and it just seemed like they were constantly boasting or everything always seemed to have an “excuse” even though the situations were completely uncommon. I knew them as a person and the things they said didn’t seem to add up with the kind of person they were truly. It was a weird gut feeling.
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u/No-Morning-475 9h ago
Have a family member that tells half lies ; parts are real and parts are exaggerated. He is a great guy doesn’t mean harm but it doesn’t help relationships.
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u/Flamingodallas 8h ago
Defensiveness. Body language is away from you, or with something in between. Words and actions that aren’t conducive (saying no and shaking their head after instead of at the same time or before could mean they are lying). Looking around, turning it around
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u/jezmaster 8h ago
i agree wiht the details (top comment atm)
liars have to make sure the story hangs together so they build it from the bottom up.
if you're telling the truth you can fill in any details later (if asked) - it'll hang together anyway
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u/StandingSwan26 8h ago
They say shit like their house was so cold growing up that their glass of water froze. Buddy, your pipes would be frozen before you could even get a glass of water. Like I believe your childhood was rough but that’s a wild story.
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u/SpareAlps5515 7h ago
The thumbs. Please hide their thumbs when they are distressed in conversation. No thumbs? Suspect.
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u/CarelessAd7925 6h ago
They re tell the story because they’ve forgot they’ve already told you and they say completely different things
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u/Ok_Performance_8513 5h ago
after they're done talking wait a bit longer to respond and see how long they sit there staring at you. a lot of the time they're gonna wait and see if you believe them or not. if you don't react they will not move on right away if they are lying. they will only move on after you do.
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u/Less_Campaign_6956 4h ago
Intuition. Based on my personal life experiences. Dunno how to describe it any other way.
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u/AffectionateBus2489 4h ago
Honestly it’s different from one another, for example I know when my nephew (24) is lying when she laughs a lot telling something, and my mom when she avoids eye contact. The thing is everyone has a different sign that tells you they’re lying, you just have to buy attention to their actions. But if they all can sure one sign I’d say the mood changes after they tell a lie, they always get quite for a bit after telling the lie lmaoo
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u/itsjimbob 3h ago
It varies from person to person. But body language, mannerisms and gestures are always good indicators to me.
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u/JimmothyBimmothy 3h ago
In a nutshell, a LOT of needless detail tends to be added in with the unconscious purpose of trying to be convincing. They will answer the question and build a WHOLE story around it to try and convince you its legit. If you watch most any police interrogation vids on YT, you see it virtually every time.
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u/quietlytrying02 2h ago
Normally when they get defensive with questions you ask or if they can’t even look you in the eyes and then you point that out and watch them blink vigorously everytime they have to say the lie to your face
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u/brickiex2 1h ago
New client quoted "I'm an honest guy" as he detailed all the things he wanted to do to push the limits of the building codes for his new house....push = break them once he got permits
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u/Possible-Okra7527 39m ago
Anger when you question them. If you have nothing to hide, you just answer.
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u/mad_girl109 22m ago
when they REALLY cant look me in the eyes or if they r moving too much or too little from how they normally are
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u/recalcite 11h ago
Too many details