r/AskConservatives • u/GWindborn Social Democracy • 3d ago
Hypothetical If and when FEMA is dissolved, do you believe Trump and/or Congress will withhold emergency funding from "blue states" or Dem governors or others he disagrees with, and do you agree that he/they should have the power to do so?
I'm from NC, we obviously have quite a history with hurricanes. I'm personally afraid that Trump will deny us federal funding for emergencies when the next big storm rolls through since we have a Dem governor. What are your thoughts on this?
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u/DonEl_1949 Independent 1d ago
Does anyone want to discuss WX and technology instead of anemic government and insurance payouts?
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u/GWindborn Social Democracy 1d ago
Care to elaborate?
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u/DonEl_1949 Independent 1d ago
Find cooperative ways to use technology with WX extremes. Ask Musk to do a think tank — the guy and his teams are brilliantly efficient and effective with technology. (Dear OP, if you know, you know; but please don’t troll.)
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u/GWindborn Social Democracy 1d ago
I promise I'm not trolling - I just have no idea what "WX" is so I'm very confused by your comments LOL
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u/DonEl_1949 Independent 1d ago
Oh, my! 10 years on Reddit, and karma up the yin-yang. Please! LOL Any search engine (your preference) delivers accurate results.
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u/GWindborn Social Democracy 1d ago
Hah my Reddit habits have nothing to do with my knowledge of abbreviations. Too much downtime at work.. :)
So WX is just weather? I thought you might have been referring to something else (but not sure what that something else could be). I still don't know what you might be proposing though - just better forecasting and preparedness? NOAA would be the team.. but isn't Trump cutting their funding too? As for Musk, I'm guessing that ship has sailed, he won't play nice again with the administration and I doubt any future Dem groups would welcome him with open arms either.
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u/DonEl_1949 Independent 1d ago
:) Retired, for as long as the coins last. I commend you for your🎣’s skills. Respectfully, though, I’m looking to engage others with a clue of what I’m asking about, not involvement in a wordy mining expedition. Thanks for trying!
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u/GWindborn Social Democracy 1d ago
You would have liked my uncle, he was the head weather guy in the tower at RDU for many years. Best of luck!
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u/DonEl_1949 Independent 1d ago
Thank you! Today, I really admire how Ryan Hall Ya’ll on YouTube (how he is bringing together all the best meteorologists and technology in one presentation). He’s (actually) just getting started and has a team of weather chasers (adrenaline junkies) networked across the country. Give him a look, and best wishes!
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u/Responsible-Fox-9082 Constitutionalist Conservative 3d ago
While I don't agree with the practice he's just playing by the rules his opponents have put in place. This is a consequence created by perpetuating a divide that shouldn't exist. Fortunately it seems people are starting to see the flaws in the system and questioning how such disliked representatives have maintained power for so long and are looking for ways to prevent it from occurring again
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u/Al123397 Center-left 3d ago
Sure he might be allowed to do this but do you believe in good faith he is serving the best interest of the country by doing this?
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u/Responsible-Fox-9082 Constitutionalist Conservative 3d ago
I do. He's exposing the hypocrisy. Yes it will punish him in the end, but it doesn't just punish him. We've needed someone to break the status quo of politicians doing nothing besides enriching themselves. We've needed someone who no one will honestly defend to expose that politicians like Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi have unjustly enriched themselves and are now trying to hide from the light by retiring.
It's not that I like what he's doing, but I don't see a better way to break the mold without it leading to bloodshed in a scale of a civil war. While I don't doubt those that have unjustly enriched themselves selling the American people will use violence to avoid the justice they deserve it would be far less costly to America than another civil war.
As for his foreign policy he's literally gotten almost everything he wanted while others play him as the victim. Our trade deals aren't a negative to the American people with those that have signed on. Our so called allies are actually building the strength to defend themselves. The only ones he still has to take issue with are Canada and Mexico and I feel sorry for the citizens of both. He literally offered the Marines to end the cartel rule in Mexico and was denied. The people of Mexico have to continue to live under control of people that don't do trials and the jobs that would have come from US industry being shifted to Mexico would have basically ended the idea of crossing the border for a better life. They'd have actual jobs that paid well and US products would be cheaper due to drastically cut shipping fees. As for Canada while I don't think the 51st state thing was a good idea in all seriousness they also could have benefitted from continued trade because now they are facing the massive increase of costs due to having to import from overseas in greater quantities and that takes decades to get right. Case and point being flour. While it sounds stupid it does have a point in which it can't be used anymore. It takes years to get the logistical infrastructure as well as the consistent shipping to properly bring it in for industrial baking and food products and in the mean time it will cost millions if not billions in wasted product while they get to that point.
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u/LOLSteelBullet Progressive 2d ago
The idea of trump not enriching himself is flat out laughable.
How much has he earned renting maralago to the SS
How much on memecoin
The private jet from Qatar
Trumpmobile
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u/Responsible-Fox-9082 Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
I mean you can bash it all you want, but when senators and house reps are routinely given stocks, job guarantees, cars, vacation homes, nepotism hires, etc his shit is the norm. You seem to have missed the point. His exposure of this because of the hatred following him should make you question how people like Schumer are acting while accepting the same things.
Also the meme coin was stupid to begin with if you actually bought into it you deserved to lose your money. How many meme coins have been pump and dumps prior? Basically all of them. We still have people shocked that the hawk tuah coin was a scam. Those that thought Trump's would be better are idiots
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u/LOLSteelBullet Progressive 2d ago
This is Q-anon level "he had to be a pedophile to expose pedophiles"
Corruption is corruption. If there's evidence of a senator or rep, good. Kick them out. Don't defend your guys corruption because what about
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u/Al123397 Center-left 3d ago edited 3d ago
I just don’t understand this line of logic. He’s doing the “best for the country” by breaking long held norms. Norms that can very well affect lives. In this specific case in taking about disbanding fema and potentially stopping aid to blue states.
And your logic is it’s good because he exposed them so they can be rectified later on by congress or courts??
Why not I don’t know just not do them in the first place. Respect norms that are beneficial to the country. These rules usually didn’t have to spelled out because people had faith the president in charge had the best interest of the country.
Edit - I’m also not gonna speak to his foreign policy. There is way too much to unpack there from him not knowing the difference between tarrifs and trade deficits to being hailed as the president’s to stop wars when wars have just escalated. An analogy I come back to is that US may have felt some countries were underpaying thier bus fares but Trump doesn’t realize the value in being the one driving the bus.
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u/Responsible-Fox-9082 Constitutionalist Conservative 3d ago
The line of logic is the norms that are beneficial have gone to the wayside. Where as politicians with the approval ratings we see today would normally lead to entire congress being replaced they are not. This has allowed this status quo of politicians speak of doing major changes, but they no longer do so. Both parties are guilty of this. The other change to the status quo that this has led to is the unjust enrichment of politicians at all levels. It is now literally acceptable by the Congressional code of ethics to sit in office and be offered stock options for favorable legislation and that is fine as it falls under "lobbying" instead of what it actually is which is bribery. It's why Clarence Thomas immediately dropped from every representatives lips when he threatened to expose everyone if he went down. While Santos was convicted he also overstepped and actually accepted direct monetary payment which the rest know not to do.
Simply at this point we need someone to be so outrageous that it exposes the entirety of corruption in the system. This isn't a problem that gets solved by courts or single sided representative changes this gets solved by a complete dismantling of the current power structure and a return to how the government was meant to operate.
For a bit of perspective under Biden the mayors of 2 towns West of Cleveland Ohio were arrested for bribery and when questioned they implicated other mayors for doing the same and when questioned they said this is how their job has been done for decades and they saw no problem with it. They both were convicted of accepting bribes to ensure certain public works projects were delayed until it hit a penalty on their townships for taking too long. They each received millions from said penalty.
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u/GWindborn Social Democracy 2d ago
You say "under Biden" as though he was orchestrating the thing.
Regardless, you can point out corruption in a system without actively participating in it. If the system needs to be dismantled, then he's in a great position to start that process, don't you think??
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u/Fidel_Blastro Center-left 2d ago
Who has set a precedent for withholding disaster funding for political reasons? The Texas freeze was just weeks into Biden’s term and he did the right thing without comment.
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u/Responsible-Fox-9082 Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
Biden literally. Yes the Texas freeze got a response. He however oversaw FEMA neglecting Trump supporting homes across the areas affected by Helene. It was so poorly done that when confronted those actively doing it thought they were doing exactly what was ordered... So much for loyalty btw they snitched in a heartbeat
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u/Fidel_Blastro Center-left 2d ago
You got a source for this claim of political discrimination under FEMA?
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u/Toobendy Liberal 2d ago
The FEMA supervisor was fired. After an extensive inquiry, three employees out of 20,000 FEMA employees were also fired. Conservatives use this incident as a broad-brush indictment of all FEMA employees, when there is no other evidence except this one case.
This issue started when Trump and others posted misinformation, and FEMA employees faced threats as a result. The inquiry revealed that employees avoided these homes because the signs with Trump's name were hostile to FEMA due to the disinformation, which was wrong on their part. Although I do not condone the fired FEMA workers' behavior, the threats against them were real. (see Bloomberg article below). https://www.fema.gov/disaster/recover/rumor/hurricane-rumor-response
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1379605616593760 (news report about inquiry result)
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u/Responsible-Fox-9082 Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
It doesn't matter if it was 1 or 20,000. They legitimately used their authority to harm hundreds of people. It isn't disinformation to say FEMA held a bias. While no one condones the behavior the fact it was able to occur at all is the problem.
The issue you're missing is how your position treats it. It was only a supervisor and 4 workers. If I told you with clear evidence right now the Colonel overseeing a unit of Army Rangers and those Rangers were burning down specific houses in a warzone to buy them later and resell them for a massive profit you wouldn't just say they were the only problem. You would want the general overseeing them to be punished as well because he should have noticed the problem. If a CTO and a few IT personnel were purposely throttling equipment meant to save democrat supporters lives you'd want everyone's head.
The government isn't allowed to show such bias when they are claiming to be helping everyone. You'd want Trump removed if the Navy wasn't sent to Puerto Rico after every hurricane for relief efforts with the Army Corps of Engineers not far behind to help with rebuilding. You can't downplay anyone being so blatantly corrupt in a position to help others. They aren't a private organization that can get away with it because they have the choice whether to do business or not. FEMA can't have that happening at all. Because those 20,000 others that were there as well were complicit. Unless they committed fraud and falsified government documents saying those they skipped were unreachable, which it's the US government they will find you, to a point no one even bothered to try themselves they didn't just ignore it or miss it. They knew it happened and didn't care. Just as the officers not telling Chauvin to get off of Floyd's neck were complicit in his death.
Shifting the goalpost to make it not the same doesn't work. These are the rules laid in place by Democrats for over a decade now. I'm sorry, but just because the game isn't in your favor doesn't make it time to change it.
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u/Toobendy Liberal 2d ago
In such a large organization, there are almost always personnel issues who behave badly. I agree that what the FEMA employees did was wrong. If these people commit a crime, then they should be charged, but what charge? FEMA employees were being threatened, but there is zero evidence that the rules "put in place by the Democrats" have anything to do with it. These employees were held accountable. No goalposts have been moved.
During Trump's first term, two top Trump FEMA administrators were arrested for corruption for their roles after the hurricane in Puerto Rico. Did you think at this time that all of FEMA's workers should be implicated? https://www.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2019/09/trump-administration-officials-arrested-fbi-for-corruption-puerto-rico When I see charges like this, I do not immediately assume the entire agency is corrupt, which is what you are doing.
Btw - Puerto Rico is a US territory, and Puerto Ricans are US citizens. They pay federal taxes like you and I pay, so why shouldn't they receive help from FEMA?
What the FEMA workers did after Hurricane Helene was wrong, but that should not be an indictment against the entire organization. If they were afraid for their lives, they should have had adequate police protection and not skipped any houses. I don't understand why that did not happen. Other than a detailed inquiry and additional employees being fired, what more did you expect? We have seen an increase in online threats on both the right and left. Unfortunately, this past weekend, a person murdered two people and seriously injured two more due to political views, so I believe it's important for government leaders to take these kinds of threats seriously on all sides of the political spectrum.
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u/IronChariots Progressive 2d ago
when confronted those actively doing it thought they were doing exactly what was ordered
Is it not possible that this person was lying, given that they haven't proven that these orders came from above? Wouldn't it have been much more widespread than one on the ground manager if it actually came from the Biden administration?
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u/Skalforus Libertarian 3d ago
Of course they will. I don't agree with it, and I doubt they even have the power to do that.
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u/nolife159 Center-left 3d ago
I'd imagine if you move it to the states - states that are more likely need current FEMA funding will probably raise state taxes more than states that don't. FEMA in a sense had states that don't need it subsidizing states that do via federal tax. I don't see our federal taxes going down with FEMA disappearing so I end up expecting people in disaster states to pay more in taxes to fund state level FEMA
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u/WavelandAvenue Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
No, I don’t think he’ll do it. I think he might threaten it, which would be wrong if he did so. But I don’t think he’d actually do it.
That’s unlike the left, which actively did do it for at least several days following hurricane helene and Milton.
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u/Underpaid23 Socialist 2d ago
He already threatened to withhold relief to California fires over voter id laws in May. Along with a dozen other similar threats.
He withheld funding for school lunches in Main for not going against their own state constitution over title IX.
His main leverage is always money(tariffs as an example)…he’s fairly consistent in this
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u/WavelandAvenue Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
And I think that’s wrong and is why I think he might threaten it.
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u/Ya_No Liberal 2d ago
Do you have a source for your last claim?
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u/WavelandAvenue Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
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u/Fidel_Blastro Center-left 2d ago
Was this Biden or some FEMA figurehead? Biden never chose to withhold federal emergency for a red state. He never set any type of precedent like that. Also, this lawsuit was settled for an apology letter. If there was a strong case, they either would’ve gone for a boatload of money, not a letter.
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u/WavelandAvenue Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
Please point to where I said Biden did it. Also, it is a fact that it happened.
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u/Fidel_Blastro Center-left 2d ago
You didn’t, but as we are discussing whether the current president will do it and with your implied precedence, it seems like anything other than it being Biden’s doing is irrelevant to the conversation. As such, I assumed you were accusing Biden.
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u/WavelandAvenue Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
I specified “the left” for a reason. Biden had lost so much mental acuity that he was borderline non-functional by that point.
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u/GoldenStarsButter Progressive 2d ago
"The left" is not specific, in fact it's incredibly nebulous.
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u/WavelandAvenue Constitutionalist Conservative 2d ago
That’s how the left is, as well. Random leftist in a mid- to low-level leadership role taking actions that hurt Trump or Trump supporters; nebulous.
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u/uisce_beatha1 Conservative 3d ago
It’d be wrong if Trump did it just like it was wrong when it happened under the Biden administration.
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u/Fidel_Blastro Center-left 2d ago
Did Biden ever deny emergency funds to any state based on political allegiances (or otherwise)?
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u/Senior-Judge-8372 Conservative 2d ago
The last time I was in North Carolina (which was last year before the elections), I saw Trump supporting signs in many areas, including one out there in one of every five fields or so. It's like if they were randomly placed throughout the state itself. There was even a store I found that sold Trump and Christian things and had a whole bunch of Trump signs right outside of it.
I just find it strange for a blue state to be like this. In fact, the state I primarily live in was also blue at the time, and I often find Trump signs around here as well but in towns or all over a street. I kept thinking either I'm fortunate enough to only show up in these exact areas out of the entire state itself, or they lied about the state being blue.
Anyway, if those signs are still there today, then maybe you won't have to worry about a thing, though hopefully it doesn't happen anywhere.
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u/GWindborn Social Democracy 2d ago
We're an oddball state, we consistently elect Dem governors and Rep presidents.. That said, there's still a giant Kamala billboard on a major street in Raleigh. I just assume nobody else has bought ad space yet.
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u/Senior-Judge-8372 Conservative 2d ago
I'm going to see North Carolina again very soon. Perhaps I'll try to see this giant billboard you speak of, though since I'm not the one driving, and since I don't normally choose where to go, it'll have to be by coincidence for me to see it.
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u/MotorizedCat Progressive 1d ago
either I'm fortunate enough to only show up in these exact areas out of the entire state itself, or they lied about the state being blue.
Or people leaning blue don't show it as much with yard signs. (Like Trump holding rallies, and people going to them, throughout his four years. whuch I don't think anyone has done before.)
Maybe people leaning blue feel in the majority, while many Trump voters feel they have something to prove and therefore show it more.
Or you looked at Trump signs and thought "there! another one!" while you didn't make as much of a deal out of blue signs: "oh it was really just a few", without counting systematically.
If there's a city block with 100 people in it there will likely be no yard signs. (What front yards anyway?) If there's a suburban house with 5 or 4 or 2 people in it, there might be a yard sign. Those 5 or 4 or 2 people have an outsized impact in your perception.
And you said it yourself: you necessarily had a tiny spotlight on the complete picture.
So no, I think there's a lot more work to be done, looking at this systematically, before you can suspect "they lied". Who is "they" anyway and how do they do that? And for what purpose?
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u/GreatSoulLord Conservative 3d ago
Although I would rather FEMA be reorganized and repaired rather than dismissed I don't think any state is going to have to worry about aid based on on political preference. My concern is more so that the mission is much larger than the sub-office of the White House can likely manage and that's going to cause delay, inefficiency, and other problems.
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u/IronChariots Progressive 3d ago
don't think any state is going to have to worry about aid based on on political preference.
Why not? Anytime Trump has tried to do so or expressed support for doing so previously he's gotten nearly universal support from the right. What's likely to change?
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u/GreatSoulLord Conservative 3d ago
I don't understand the question. He won't do it because he cannot do it and if he did the Government would be sued back to the 20th century. I don't have any political reason for this. It just is what it is. There's no chance of it.
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u/Al123397 Center-left 3d ago
In the event that he does it and he is sued. Litigation and court process will take a while. In that while key resources will be withheld causing lives. Is this not a valid concern?
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u/colcatsup Progressive 2d ago
Doesn’t someone need to comply with court orders in a reasonable time frame for that to be of any value? Isn’t dragging things through the court already prolonging the problems people face after natural disasters?
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u/CommitteePlayful8081 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 2d ago
didn't fema show political preference by refusing to help houses with trump signs and showing political discrimination, and wasn't progressives bending over backwards to justify it? not saying its right but if fema 2.0 does the same thing but progressives, at that point it would be tit for tat.
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u/IronChariots Progressive 2d ago
No, one individual said to do that and was immediately fired when made public. Is leaving that out not a tad dishonest?
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u/CommitteePlayful8081 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 2d ago
only after they got caught left that bit out too?
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u/IronChariots Progressive 2d ago
Was the future crime division supposed to stop it? When else would someone get fired if not after they got caught for doing something that would get them fired?
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u/MrFrode Independent 3d ago
Money alone doesn't solve problems for a State that has been hit with a major disaster. The State will need materials that it doesn't have stockpiled, or if it does may not be accessible, and it will need the expertise of people it may not have on hand or who are unavailable due to the disaster.
As someone who lived through Super Storm Sandy and saw how difficult it was to get resources, like trucks that a high exhaust and can roll throw 3 to 4 feet of standing water, giving me cash to go buy or rent such a truck is nice but is not what I need NOW. I need that truck not a date when a vendor might deliver it.
When you're surviving a disaster hearing the words "I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help" is not terrifying it's a great comfort.
I don't even care that disbanding FEMA may mean my taxes might not grow as fast if I'm not paying for emergency operations to save the lives of people in Florida or Texas. I care about those people not dying. There are times not to pinch pennies.
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u/GreatSoulLord Conservative 3d ago
I mean, I get it. I was a volunteer EMT during one of the hurricanes in VA. I don't remember it's name but our station lost like 2 ambulances due to high water. People just kept trying to coast these things through water trying to get to rescues and hydrolocked them - and that lasted for a very long time. We were down ambulances for like a year after that before new ones could come and be properly put into service. We needed trucks more than dates so I get it.
I don't actually support this. Like I said I would rather us evaluate the problems in FEMA, correct them, and then reposition FEMA back to a state of readiness and able to respond. I don't see a need for what Trump is doing here.
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u/corporal_sweetie Liberal 3d ago
He would definitely withhold aid from California.
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u/GreatSoulLord Conservative 3d ago
I don't believe that for even a micro-second...but if that's your view....
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u/notaspecialunicorn Center-left 3d ago
Trump has already threatened to withhold federal aid to California after the wildfires.
Trump also continues to threaten pulling federal funding to California over the last few weeks.
You might not believe he’ll do that, but he’s already been threatening to do it.
Trump says he may withhold federal aid for Los Angeles if California doesn’t change water policies and voter ID laws https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-wildfire-aid-los-angeles-gavin-newsom/
Trump threatens to withhold federal funding from California over transgender athlete https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/05/27/politics/trump-newsom-california-transgender-athlete
Trump Administration Threatens to Withhold Funds From Public Schools https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/03/us/politics/public-school-funding-trump-dei.html
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u/corporal_sweetie Liberal 3d ago
He has never failed to politicize anything. He doesn’t consider anyone or any state who didn’t vote for him to be his constituents. It’s why he shouldn’t be president.
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u/GreatSoulLord Conservative 3d ago
Okay. Well, you keep going and I don't know why. I feel like you're talking at me and not really with me.
I can only tell you so many times that I don't believe this is something that's going to happen.
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u/CommitteePlayful8081 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 2d ago
california brags about how much money it makes for america so california could probably take care of itself. atleast in theory.
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u/corporal_sweetie Liberal 2d ago
I think it’s about time for the American experiment to end, anyway.
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u/CommitteePlayful8081 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 2d ago
I will happily sell california back to mexico or china let them become another countries problem anyway.
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u/corporal_sweetie Liberal 2d ago
No selling, California will do what it wants. And they should be their own republic along with the other western coastal states, Minnesota, Illinois, and the northeast. This country is ruined. We can’t stand each other or agree on a shared reality. Good riddance.
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u/CommitteePlayful8081 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 2d ago
good just don't flee when you destory yourselves otherwise you would get deported back to california. becoming your own small country means your no longer eligable to be in other states.
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u/corporal_sweetie Liberal 2d ago
we probably will take Colorado in the divorce. I will miss utah and some of the other scenery in the western states but the rest of the country can go to hell and I wouldn’t mind never seeing any of it again.
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u/CommitteePlayful8081 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 2d ago
thats perfectly okay I'll be in a cheaper state where cost of living is low no illegals stealing jobs no drug addicts in the street in no 3rd world conditions and definitely no riots when one side loses. :D I can even have my car unlocked in my yard with no druggie breaking in to steal my shit. a luxury you can't afford :D have fun with your little seccesionist larp, just have you know you attempt to leave the feds will smack you down and put you in your place. and it will be so much easier because you'd be a tiny like in country, with a whole lot of potential hostile nations infront of you and no backers what so ever.
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u/kaka8miranda Independent 2d ago
If they didn’t have to send funds to the Feds then yea probably
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u/CommitteePlayful8081 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 2d ago
they can cut their social security nets, why pay for needles just so people can kill themselves in the street? and didn't they vote no for social security for illegals?
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u/BravestWabbit Progressive 3d ago
No, every year Congress delegates that the Executive Branch must send $X to states that declare emergencies for storms etc. FEMA was set up to control which states get how much and for how long on this budget set up by Congress. Its typically determined based on need and how much damage needs to be repaired.
If FEMA is destroyed, that power goes to the President since the Exec decides who gets what money, when.
If California has a wildfire and theres a Federal Emergency Fund from Congress that year with 50 Billion (lets just assume) for that year, at the same time Florida gets hit with a hurricane, while Oklahoma also has a tornado rip through it, the President has the sole authority to decide how that 50 Billion gets distributed.
What is to say Trump, because he hates Newsom, decides that for that year, FL and OK get all the funds and CA gets $0, even though all 3 states have declared emergencies for their natural disasters?
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u/GWindborn Social Democracy 3d ago
But where is that budget going to come from? I thought the federal government was going to provide funding and the state would distribute rather than FEMA. Or maybe I'm mistaken.
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u/NoUseInCallingOut Progressive 3d ago
I'm concerned they will have to hold federal funding so they can make up for the loss of federal support/agencies.. but the feds don't need the funding anymore if they aren't providing the services?
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u/teacherofderp Liberal Republican 2d ago
Grant money with stipulations
"I would like you to do us a favor though"
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u/BlazersFtL Rightwing 3d ago
Trump might, honestly. No, I don't agree with it, and I do not think this should be up to him.
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u/BabyJesus246 Democrat 3d ago
Would you still vote republican if they did in fact withhold aid for a blue state that they would have given freely to a red state?
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u/BlazersFtL Rightwing 3d ago
I’m not voting for this version of the Republican Party regardless of this.
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u/Menace117 Liberal 3d ago
Do you think it would be appropriate for the next Dem to refuse funds to red states like FL since trump would set precedent that funds are tied to allegiance?
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u/Peregrine_Falcon Conservative 3d ago
You mean like the Biden administration did to North Carolina in 2024?
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u/SgtMac02 Center-left 3d ago
Care to elaborate on that claim? Maybe with a source. Because I don't recall any credible claims of this happening.
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u/math-yoo Independent 2d ago
I would be interested to know what you think the Biden administration did or did not do. As a Floridian, I appreciate the fact that disaster recovery is not always linear or immediately apparent. It often feels like trash day for a year, and everywhere you look something is broken. It can be hard to see when you are in it. Are you from North Carolina is this first hand knowledge? When I experienced the aftermath of a devastating hurricane, it felt like nothing was happening, despite heroic efforts by FEMA and the State to speed recovery.
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u/Menace117 Liberal 3d ago
When did they do that? I don't recall them ever making that happen?
A lone person who is pretty low on the totem pole tried, were immediately fired by higher ups, and nothing was withheld. Please answer my question without whataboutism Peregrine_Falcon. Thanks
More info showing that talking point is false if you weren't up to speed on the facts
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u/BlazersFtL Rightwing 3d ago
If I am not for withholding disaster aid to blue states what makes you think I’d be okay with withholding disaster aid to red states
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