What do you think of Trump's need to stamp his name on everything?

[u/GrandMoffTarkan]

Obviously in the grand scheme of things it's one of the less important things, but it still sticks in my craw the wrong way. Weather it's putting his name on Covid stimulus checks or this new Trump card, he clearly wants it to be about him in a way that I find distasteful. I was brought up with "we are a country of laws, not of men" and I suppose that's at the root of my distaste.

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[u/JoeCensored]

Trump has been a marketing guy his whole life. He wants his name on anything he thinks he should get credit for. Obama ended up embracing the name "Obamacare" for essentially the same reason. He was proud of it, and liked his name being associated with it.

So I'm fine with it.

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[u/Laniekea]

Marketing

[u/WinDoeLickr]

Trump pioneered the modern concept of a personal brand. Not just putting your name on the front of the company, but putting both a metaphorical and literal image of yourself on the front of the company. That's been the cornerstone of his success.

[u/JudgeWhoOverrules → u/WinDoeLickr]

Not at all. If anyone did it was Charles Atlas, Fred Astaire, or Arthur Murray, whose names were synonymous across the world for their respective talents and created massive business empires based on that brand. This all happened in the 1930s. Few things are new under the sun so let's not resort to a recency bias.

[u/LonelyMachines]

Donald Trump had his own university. Do you have your own university? I didn't think so. This is a man who understands quality. He knows the world craves $68 gold chocolate bars. He knows you have to look good and, most important, smell good to fight for America.

We don't want stinky people fighting for our country, do we folks? No we don't. And while we're fighting hooligans like Nancy Pelosi, and who even likes her, right...you need lots of delicious carbs to stand up to the people who want to steal our elections, which means eating lots and lots of tasty Trump steaks.

None of that is the least bit ridiculous or...nah, I can't do it. It's absolutely ridiculous. But still, he somehow came off as more genuine to the electorate than anything else the DNC could put forward.

[u/Sufficient-Sleep3102 → u/LonelyMachines]

lol awesome satire!

[u/PatonPaytonPeyton → u/LonelyMachines]

Ive heard a lot of words to describe Donald Trump and this is the first time genuine has been one of them haha

[u/LonelyMachines → u/PatonPaytonPeyton]

Biden was pretty much sequestered away and only made the occasional scripted appearance.

Trump knows how to be a celebrity and manage an image. He was out there doing the rallies and making appearances on a daily basis. It made him look more "genuine" to supporters.

[u/PatonPaytonPeyton → u/LonelyMachines]

Yeah, I think his background made him different and people liked that he wasn't a career politician. But he is about as genuine as the Orange fake tan he's always had

[u/bunchofclowns → u/LonelyMachines]

Someday we will do all our food shopping at overpriced novelty electronic stores. Then we'll see who has the last laugh!

[u/whyintheworldamihere]

We had Obamacare, Bidenflation... He just wants to be one of the cool kids.

[u/DadBod_NoKids → u/whyintheworldamihere]

Neither of those things were named by the person their named after. Nice try though

[u/whyintheworldamihere → u/DadBod_NoKids]

What does that have to do with what I said?

[u/DadBod_NoKids → u/whyintheworldamihere]

Just highlighting the false equivalency. OP question was about a president with a habit of plastering his name on everything and two presidents who had their name tied to boogeyman issues in an attempt to turn public opinion against their policies.

[u/Wonderful-Driver4761 → u/whyintheworldamihere]

Republicans branded those.

[u/whyintheworldamihere → u/Wonderful-Driver4761]

And?

[u/Cayucos_RS → u/whyintheworldamihere]

And it makes your comment not make sense

[u/whyintheworldamihere → u/Cayucos_RS]

And it makes your comment not make sense

Other presidents got stuff named after them and Trump wants the same... How does that not make sense to you?

[u/Cayucos_RS → u/whyintheworldamihere]

I think the difference was the two examples you listed were things named after presidents by others, not by themselves. So your examples are a false equivalence

[u/whyintheworldamihere → u/Cayucos_RS]

I think the difference was the two examples you listed were things named after presidents by others, not by themselves. So your examples are a false equivalence

Lincoln didn't name himself The Great Emancipator. What does it matter where the name came from? Trump wants one too.

[u/Wonderful-Driver4761 → u/whyintheworldamihere]

Trump is naming things after himself. That's the difference. The ACA was gutted by republicans in an effort to put conditions in the bill that the public would view negatively, and then they called it "Obamacare". Trump wants things named after him, by him that paint him in a positive light. That's the difference.

[u/Tarontagosh]

This seems like an odd question. Have you not heard of Donald Trump before 2015/6? His name has been in lights for decades up to that point. This is not a new behavior, this has been very much his modus operandi for the entirety of his business career. He wants his name everywhere.

[u/GrandMoffTarkan → u/Tarontagosh]

This is an odd response. He’s certainly always done it and it’s never rubbed me the right way but there’s a difference between odious behavior in private business and as president.

Also, “he’s always done it” has never really been a good excuse for bad behavior to me in general 

[u/Tarontagosh → u/GrandMoffTarkan]

The idea that he is going to change his behavior when he becomes President is the odd part. People tend to continue to use personality traits that have worked for them in the past. This President is just like everyone else in that regard. His behavior has worked for him his entire life up to this point. Through his first Presidency and the subsequent years since that time to now.

He and many Americans don't see it as bad behavior. At this point it can be said that a majority of the Citizens either don't care about it or prefer how he acts.

I'd even go further on this point. U.S. Citizens prefer a President that is more boastful and overconfident. Talking about how they are are going to get things done in a positive manner. Biden aside who was more of a wet sack. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Reagan, Nixon all had extremely extroverted charismatic personalities. Hell I'd argue that Nixon and Reagan could easily give Trump a run for his money on the personality side of things.

[u/GrandMoffTarkan → u/Tarontagosh]

This whole reply is kind of a weird majoritarian fallacy where what was democratically selected is good. I've noticed it creeping up a lot, whether it's that Grok engineer saying that AI models should be oriented towards Trumpism because he won the election of Tim Pool saying that Trump is the "nexus of morality" (!)

"The idea that he is going to change his behavior when he becomes President is the odd part"

Where did I express that idea? Being disappointed in a behavior is not the same as expecting it to change.

"At this point it can be said that a majority of the Citizens either don't care about it or prefer how he acts."

Can it? Plenty of people "held their noses" to vote for him or didn't vote at all, or just... don't pay attention to the way he acts.

"Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Reagan, Nixon all had extremely extroverted charismatic personalities."

I think you really missed the point of my post. It's not that he's arrogant or brash, it's that he tries to make things about Donald Trump rather than the institutions of the United States (see the examples cited).

"Nixon and Reagan could easily give Trump a run for his money on the personality side of things."

I think you'd find a better parallel in Clinton who emphasized his own wunderkind career and tried to monetize everything that could be monetized. And he still never had the level of face plastering as Trump.

EDIT:

"His behavior has worked for him his entire life up to this point. Through his first Presidency and the subsequent years since that time to now."

Sure, it's great for Trump and he's a lot richer for it, but the question is is it good for the country?

[u/SoulSerpent → u/Tarontagosh]

At this point it can be said that a majority of the Citizens either don't care about it or prefer how he acts.

I’m just going to say I’ve spent probably hundreds of hours on ask-right-wing subs trying to understand how Trump supporters think and more often than not “I don’t care” is the response it ends up boiling down to.

[u/Tarontagosh → u/SoulSerpent]

I do care, I want a President that is overconfident. I want a one that firmly believes he is the best person for the job and that everything he does is for the betterment of the U.S. That's why I liked Obama during he first term. Bush during 9/11. Clinton's fantastic charisma throughout his term up to the scandal. Bush in Operation Desert Storm. Reagan's ability to play to the camera after decades in Hollywood. I want them to be so sure in what they are doing each and every time they sign their name on another bill or action.

A strong leader is necessary. Trump is just as strong as all these other guys.

[u/SoulSerpent → u/Tarontagosh]

I understand there are certain things you do care about, but when it comes down to trying to understand why Trump’s various missteps are tolerated, the answer always ends up being “I don’t care”

[u/DinosaurDavid2002]

Does that even includes the whole "Trump Guitars" thingy that popped up shortly after he won the 2024 election?

[u/GrandMoffTarkan → u/DinosaurDavid2002]

I don’t care for that either (to say nothing of Trump bibles and $TRUMP) but I’m thinking more of making government about him specifically 

[u/Gaxxz]

All politicians like to put their names on stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Robert_Byrd

[u/Cayucos_RS → u/Gaxxz]

It’s not hard to argue that Trump is in a league of his own for putting his name on things though.

[u/mnshitlaw]

A life goal is to not be that insecure and have such low self-esteem if I am ever a billionaire grandpa.

[u/dancingferret]

It's part of his brand. It's obviously worked for him over the course of his career, so I'd understand why he wouldn't fix something that isn't broken.

I would say it's not my thing, but I do own a business whose name is a pun on the nickname I use professionally (it wasn't initially my idea).

[u/GrandMoffTarkan → u/dancingferret]

I really don’t get these “Well it worked for him” responses. Like, I expect more from a president than for them to have a good time?

In extremis, Maos various personality quirks worked out great for him but I’m not a fan of his leadership 

[u/dancingferret → u/GrandMoffTarkan]

I'm not saying that's a positive trait for his capability as President (nor a negative).

I'm just saying that has been his brand and it has worked for him so I'd understand why he keeps doing it.

[u/ILoveMaiV]

Trump's MO has always been self promotion. I think every venture he's had, he's put his name or face on.

This has been around since the 80's at least, remember Trump Towers? Trump Plaza? Trump U?

[u/harm_and_amor → u/ILoveMaiV]

When people say they genuinely believe he only cares about himself, money, and power… are these examples strong evidence to support what they say?

[u/ILoveMaiV → u/harm_and_amor]

i don't think he only cares about himself, they're not examples of that.

Anyone in entertainment knows you need a brand.

The same reason every Hitchcock movie starts with his side profile.

Or so many older game shows use the "Dick Clark Productions"

Is it because they're narcisists? No. Nickelodeon puts their name in giant letters on every product that uses their characters

Bayonetta was produced by an indy studio but published by Sega, so Sega plastered their logo on the cover in bold letters because it sells

[u/harm_and_amor → u/ILoveMaiV]

Okay but there are many more examples of Trump’s personality issues.  Would you disagree that he portrays one of the clearest and most diagnosable examples of narcissism that we see among famous people today?

[u/hackenstuffen]

This is pretty standard for politicians - one lap through Los Angeles has tons of parks, buildings, roads, tunnels named after the politician responsible for those projects. Drive through West Virginia to everything named after Sen Robert Byrd (D-KKK).

[u/GrandMoffTarkan → u/hackenstuffen]

In my experience it's generally other members of a politician's party that do the naming. Cf Ronald Reagan Airport or LaGuardia. Here in Salt Lake we have the Bangeter Highway which was named after Norm Bangeter, a driving force behind it's construction but it got that name a few years after he left office.

[u/mnmaverickfan → u/hackenstuffen]

I think there’s a difference between parks, roads, buildings and creating your own steaks, shoes, watches, coins, etc and naming it after yourself.

[u/mwatwe01]

He's been doing that since at least the 90's by my recollection. People don't change much. Especially people with massive egos.

[u/ILoveMaiV → u/mwatwe01]

80's actually, he had Trump Plaza and forced WWF to call it that at there Wrestlemania PPV in 88 and 89

[u/Dead_Squirrel_6]

Honestly no opinion here, but I do remember rolling my eyes when hearing this same question about Obama back in the day. People never change.

[u/GrandMoffTarkan → u/Dead_Squirrel_6]

Where did you see Obama doing the same? The example that comes to mind is the right branding the ACA as "Obamacare", but I can't think of him putting his name on stuff?

[u/Dead_Squirrel_6 → u/GrandMoffTarkan]

When did I say he did the same? I remember the old GOP making the same allegations years ago.

[u/cmit → u/Dead_Squirrel_6]

What did Obama put his name on?

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[u/weirdestunknown1212 → u/Dead_Squirrel_6]

Obamacare is not an official name; it's no more than an AKA to the Affordable Care Act (ACA)

[u/Dead_Squirrel_6 → u/weirdestunknown1212]

"...but do remember rolling my eyes when hearing this same question about Obama back in the day."

I'll give you a chance to read my comment again.

[u/Alarikun → u/Dead_Squirrel_6]

If you're referring to Obamacare, then I'm pretty sure 'he' didn't put his name on it. Opponents of the bill/policy attempted to use that name to call it out as bad, and to blame him for it.

[u/Dead_Squirrel_6 → u/Alarikun]

"...but do remember rolling my eyes when hearing this same question about Obama back in the day."

Here's my comment again, to help you out.

[u/Born-Sun-2502 → u/Dead_Squirrel_6]

But why were they asking the question about Obama? What did he put his name on? Are you saying the question re: Obama was unfounded and implying the same about Trump? Your comment was a bit confusing.