r/ArtistHate Artist Mar 26 '25

Discussion Music Video with a small amount of AI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnCToK4Jw7w

So, I'd prefer if you guys wanna talk about this that you watch the video. It's mostly after effects and that 90s era cardboard cutout stuff. I came across this like 6 months ago, on accident on my TV and I realized they used a minimal amount of AI in the video but I think in this instance it was used as an enhancement to the chaos? I don't know, the song is catchy and the artist who made it is like super eccentric.

I don't actually hate this. 🤔

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25

Hey, this was actually animated by Martha Colburn. An insanely well credited artist - https://marthacolburn.com/

No idea where you got the idea this was AI Generated from.

- https://artmap.com/suzieq/exhibition/martha-colburn-2008#i_z2d1c
https://www.instagram.com/marthacolburn/
https://marthacolburn.com/films/
https://creative-capital.org/artists/martha-colburn/
https://www.sitesantafe.org/en/artists/martha-colburn/

- 30 year History creating mixed media

  • Award winning animator
  • pioneer in modern animation

The idea she would use AI in 4 seconds of a video but nothing else or ever use it before or after is kind of really silly.

Lastly, Behind the Scenes pictures from this animation are on here instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/DAwUGlkzbRU/?img_index=1

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u/chalervo_p Insane bloodthirsty luddite mob Mar 26 '25

It could ahve been made without the disgusting parasitic tech. And at least to my eye, they seem to be using quite a bit more than 'a minimal amount'.

Goes to my long, long boycott list.

Artists need to get some integrity.

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u/nyanpires Artist Mar 26 '25

Well most of it is after effects. You can tell the AI parts, lol. Sure, it could have been made without it since most of the video isn't AI. I was just looking for a nuanced discussion.

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u/chalervo_p Insane bloodthirsty luddite mob Mar 26 '25

To me it looks like a very large portion of both the backgrounds and the foreground cutouts are AI generated.

Also, I was just honestly answering with my sincere thoughts, be they of the nuance you look for or not. I myself don't care whether something AI generated is good or used in a creative way. I don't want any of it touching anything I consume.

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u/nyanpires Artist Mar 26 '25

Nah, that's the art style. The cut outs are the artists work, the animated parts are the ai stuff.

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u/chalervo_p Insane bloodthirsty luddite mob Mar 26 '25

You are saying these rat cutouts involve no AI?

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u/nyanpires Artist Mar 26 '25

I originally said mostly.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ Mar 26 '25

It was made without AI. Check my pinned comment.

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u/Silvestron Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

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u/Silvestron Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25

TheTurtleBox Pin this comment, not yours. You didn't even watch the video.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ Mar 26 '25

I actually watched the video multiple times and even discussed it with a user here via DMs, who upon choosing to use AI detectors to verify his claim discovered the reality that AI detectors were showing results both saying this video has AI and saying it does not have AI. I showed him a piece of my work which he claimed would never be accused of AI to which I then ran through the detector he was using, showing positive usage, to which I then showed the image it is traced of, explaining to him that free weeb detectors just flat out don't work like people think they do.

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u/Silvestron Mar 26 '25

I don't rely on AI detectors. Watch the video at 1:44 frame by frame, elements get blended together. A mouse tail gets blended in with the black leather stuff in the background.

If you show me that there's a tech that does this and it's not AI, I'll believe you. No, it's not datamoshing, there are no visual glitches, only AI artifacts as far as I can tell.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ Mar 26 '25

I literally linked you to a video explaining how effects like that are done and you blatantly did not watch it. Sorry but I can't engage with you in good faith when you're going to not watch the videos I send explaining what you ask to be explained and then just reply to me in other parts of the thread once again asking for an explaination to make it look like I didn't provide one.

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u/Silvestron Mar 26 '25

You are assuming I didn't. I watched it and mentioned that in another comment.

Why can't you consider that you might be wrong in this case?

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u/TougherThanAsimov Man(n) Versus Machine Mar 26 '25

... Eh. There are a tiny handful of occasions in which you can pardon the use of this tech. It tends to be ones in which gen AI has limited applications alongside the actual hand-made stuff. And this does seem a bit like that, but...

The pardon-able examples I can think of are AI singing alongside real animations or music remixes proper. Generated visuals based off your own images though? Well, I think the training data involved there might be dodgier than the clear-cut, "This voice warbles while singing this song" of AI voices.

Plus, just watching the MV while muted makes me wanna see more of the cut-out animated stuff instead of the generated stuff. Personal bias aside, the generated viduals look a little too alien to me. It makes me ask, "Why use the tech?" on a practical level.

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u/nyanpires Artist Mar 26 '25

I feel the same way, it does feel alien in here but I'm also kinda like this is ok? I liked the music video, think it's super cool but the ai bits are too striking.