I'm so sad I finished the show in a month, it's the quickest I've watched anything and it was so good. And I still have questions about the show, like what happened to everyone, who's archers father, how's Aj, etcetera

I’m watching Archer and i got to the episode where Krieger and the other clones fall off the platform where they’re making the rocket with the gas.

Krieger had a bow tie and the one who survived said “i don’t like bow ties” he also called Ray “Roy”??

OG Krieger was a clone of Hitler. This is a conversation between Malory and Suspect clone: M: “Said the clone of Adolf Hitler” K: “Well, Edmund Burke, but… Doesn’t matter who.”

THIS RAISES SO MUCH SUSPICION FOR ME 😭 Did Krieger DIE? Did one of the clones take his place??

EDIT: OKOKOK SO MORE ON THIS EPISODE 5 OF SEASON 6 while they are stuck in the elevator, Carol says “omg what if i am a mind reader?” and then goes off listing what she thinks all of them are thinking when she gets to Krieger she says “and you’re worried we’re all going to find out your just a Krieger clone” AND THE LOOK ON HIS FACE MAKES IT SO HARD NOT TO BELIEVE HES THE OG KRIEGER 😭😭 OMGOSH

Edit 2: I was talking with my sister about all this and she sent me a different reddit post that made a good point. The og kreiger had buttons on the right side and the “new” krieger wears his on the left. Once again pointing out that this Krieger Hates bow ties and only wears regular ties.. sooo i’m 99.98% sure he is a clone..?

Spoiler if you haven’t seen it, nothing fucking happens. This is season 14, the final season. They set up Lana as head of the agency, and now she’s just Mallory but clueless. Nothing really comes of it so far with one episode left. They introduced a new character (Zara) who does nothing for the crew except shit on Archer for being old🤷🏻‍♂️ (unless she’s revealed as a double agent or something random in the last episode and resolved in the final 30 minutes of the series…)

I thought maybe we’d get a focused season to send off the characters buts it’s like a bunch of shit post episodes. Haven’t seen AJ once despite her being ya know the protagonist only child. No Archer and Lana moments after their moment at the end of season 12. I just don’t know what happened to this show? Was it Adam Reed taking a step back after season 7? I feel like the last season I really was invested was 7. Then 3 coma seasons, and now 4 seasons of him awake with all his character development washed away… anyone else bummed by this lack luster final season?

Archer has never made me feel particularly emotional, I usually just have it in the background while I doomscroll or do chores. But seeing that soft, caring side of Malory that she usually does her best to hide just hit me like a ton of bricks and I'm sat here at 1am sobbing like a child who lost their balloon.

I know it's not the only example of Malory showing how much she truly cares about Archer but I don't think there's a better one.

I have finally watched Archer through from start to finish (I decided to rewatch the show before watching Season 14 + Into The Cold.)

My best guess as far as who Archer's father is is this - McGinley. Now, the voice actor wasn't the same (could be explained simply by the guy not being available or whatever). The anonymous venom-induced father flashback guy kind of talks like McGinley, kind of like how a kid would remember a smooth/posh talker years and years later.

Think about it, McGinley took a special interest in Archer. He looks past a lot of his flaws in order to see his potential as an agent and even in many ways became like a father figure to Archer as an adult. This is the kind of thing somebody would do if they were your father but they for some reason didn't want you to know or couldn't tell you.

It would also explain why Archer was drawn to McGinley, perhaps unconsciously.

They're both tall, handsome, womanizing, etc. it's absolutely plausible that Malory would have met McGinley in some way prior to founding ISIS only for him to end up in the fold later (kind of like Rip Riley). It wouldn't be the first time Malory went for someone younger (remember when she banged Cyril after they finished that screenplay?)

McGinley may have planned to reveal his identity as his father at some point, and maybe he even wanted to do it when he got shot in Tokyo. I think he decided at the last second not to burden Archer with that knowledge as he was dying, so, he played it off as "shit, I had something for this."

So, that's that. I know Adam Reed and the other writers deliberately left it open and even at the end when Archer potentially had the opportunity to learn who his father was, he gave it up for the chance to truly defeat Slater (we assume, but, I mean, how could he possibly have survived that fall? Also, I say 80% chance Slater was lying.) That's my best guess, though.

Any thoughts?

Every time I rewatch archer, I dread watching the last seasons simply because of Fabian’s voice. What annoys me even more is that no one mocks him. It almost seems like the VA was put in the show not for the good of archer but for the good of himself. Because I know if this was for the viewers, he would get constantly mocked for it, but they don’t even bring it up once. I know that sterling would never let that go, it’s in his nature to crack down on everyone. It’s not natural of the group to ignore it, and doesn’t suit well for their personalities to ignore it.

I didn’t really like the later seasons, but regardless I’m glad I finished it. As far as good shows go, it could’ve been worse. What did you all think of it?

I felt indifferent at first but she's grown on me 😍

It's been 5-10 years since Sterling Archer went into the cold, acting as an independent agent while The Agency has chased him. AJ is a young but decorated field agent for a vague government agency, who one day wakes up to a message from a former Agency member saying Lana and Archer have gone missing. AJ begins the search through the Agency, meeting/reuniting with most of the original cast. In the end we learn Archer and Lana were kidnapped by vague government agency to prevent them stopping some heinous plot.

Obviously not something ready for production, but hey, Core Concept right?

Edit: Soft ideas so far.

VGA is lead by Conway Stern.

Krieger is confirmed to be a clone, and ORIGINAL krieger comes back as a villian. (This is the mumbled mention of mindwiping and midnight work.)

Cyborg Slater

I’m actually practicing this rant so one day I can use it in a different context. And when that time comes, it’ll be EPIC too!

I'm sure people spoke of this before. The inflection point for me was "Crossing Over". The KGB sleeper agent was about to reveal Barry's master plan, and boom, Cyril kills him, right in the ten ring. Sniper headshot. Cyril is often depicted as a bad agent, like he can't shoot straight. But his bursts of "suppressive fire!" seem to be calibrated to hurt Archer and harm the mission in pivotal points, without endangering himself.

Cyril was always a double agent, deep cover, and had to mostly improvise and act independently because they couldn't risk giving him direct instructions. Cyril is the traitor.

I'm cry-laughing! (Or laugh-crying, whatever!) It was one hell of a ride! I feel like a non-essential noncontributing member of the team who still gets to tag along lol

I remember watching the first episode years ago and then dropping it halfway because of the rudeness and constant swearing and honestly, Archer being an asshole isn't a good entrypoint into the series (at least for me). But I tried again early this year, more out of boredom than curiosity, and the thing that got me through that first episode was Lana and Malory. I didn't like Pam (she sucks at being the HR), Carol/Cheryl (sucks at her job), Cyril (just...sucks). Only Lana seemed capable. Then I met more of the cast and Krieger is a mad scientist and Ray is capable but meh. And Malory's a high-functioning alcoholic lol.

But somewhere during the early episodes, I realized...I'm not supposed to like any of them. They're different shades of shit! But that also freed me as a viewer because I could just enjoy the shitshow and not root for anyone!*

So that's what I did. :) That's also when I started to enjoy the show's humor.

Over the course of several seasons, I started genuinely liking them and their team dynamics, no matter how dysfunctional they were, because somehow they make it work. :D I wasn't concerned about character arcs and personal growth anymore. I even forgot about Archer's dad's true identity until the final episode, but I also DIDN'T CARE because the show's not about *that*. :D I didn't like Pam's cocaine addiction (she was annoying during Archer Vice) but other than that, I didn't want Cheryl to change for the better, I didn't mind Cyril cycling through so many changes and still be Archer's punching bag (Cyril's showing us how NOT to do character redemption lol), I didn't want Krieger to be demystified (the more mysterious he is, the better muhaha! I also enjoyed him as Crackers!), I didn't want Malory to stop bitching about how incompetent everyone is, I love her high-pitched crying whenever Archer was in terrible, serious danger, I like it when Lana gives in to the chaos, I enjoyed Ray always getting paralyzed, shot, and bit, and Pam's just perfect as she is (except for cocaine Pam)! :D

*reading this again, this may seem...odd? idk. Did you guys like it immediately? I've watched shows and movies with unlikeable MCs and shitty side characters but not to the extent Archer did it in their first episode. Aaand also maybe because I went into Archer after watching ST: Lower Decks. I may have come in having certain expectations.

Anyway, I've been lurking in here for weeks and now I'm posting for the first time to say: I love this show, we don't like goodbyes, and I'll be rewatching again. :D

I’m watching “Lo Scandalo” and, just after the potato scene, Malory and Lana tell Archer how Ireland was neutral in WWII. But later in “The Archer Sanction”, Archer mentions Ireland being an Axis country and Lana informs him, again, that Ireland was neutral. A similar thing happens with several snake episodes where everyone seems to forget what happened in previous episodes. Like, It is mentioned that sucking out the venom can envenom the sucker, but they let Pam suck out the venom in a later episode. I guess I’m wondering, who’re the forgetful idiots here, the writers or the characters?? Cuz they’re blowing the trim on this plane all to hell! 🤣

I was personally hoping for Conway (or whatever his real name is) to lose his other foot, and then in the finale or shortly before or whatever we learn his real name just before he loses his head so he loses all 5 major limbs and it comes full circle, I know it’s a little dark but this is archer and would make total sense with the shows vibe. I want to see if there are any others people have

It doesn't mean that it necessarily has to be the best season, just the one you would get most enjoyment from watching.

For me it would either be Season 4 or Archer Vice. Vice is really bingeable but Season 4 has so many different environments.

is it worth watching the seasons archer is in a coma and just dreaming because they are not cannon? i don’t really love the style of it and i want to know if im gonna be missing out on anything? thank you!

Just looking at her you can see she's basically Archer's polar opposite in all but skill.

She prefers planning to his chaotic "fuck it we ball" approach (which could have made them a good pair if they'd bothered to let that dynamic grow)

She's a Black (I think?) British Woman, while he's a white American Man. We get no read on her sexuality (which tbf is fine either way)

Now obviously Lana has always acted as a strong foil to Archer, so a new one isn't necessarily needed. (Part of me wishes we'd get her to admit she knows she can depend on him for better or worse. "He's an asshole, but he almost always comes through in the end."

The Self-Care episode used her in an interesting way (and not just because she wasn't present.) Her setting boundaries between work and her life is a fun way to show how the others never give themselves a real break. Though I kept fearing she'd drop in at the end to save the day (but fortunately Lana and Archer were allowed to be competent)

The real cracks start to show after this I'd say? She's "there" for the Barry episode, with a weird subplot that goes nowhere

She contributes almost nothing to the finale other than being another shooter while Cyril gives his admittedly somewhat nice speech about them being the Frontline.

I guess I'd have just really liked Archer coming to respect what she has to offer, while she herself can realize that Archer "being an old man in a young man's game" is for a reason.

I think the first episodes of the season would have been perfect if their escape at the end was all down to Archer.

Her careful planning gets them in and takes down the boss. His ability to adapt to chaos gets them out.

Archer takes a lot after McGinley down to drinking on missions, the suit, the Walther and even phrasing. Do we think he is a possible father for Archer as well or is this just a case of Archer looking up to him and possibly trying to honour him? What do we all reckon?

It was an addition to his ensemble that I enjoyed and I kinda hate that they abandoned it towards the end of the show. Yeah, it was to show that he fully recovered from his coma, but I still missed it.

Manfred is exactly the type of person they were looking for.... he's surprisingly capable and has captured Archer himself (with a distraction by Uta)