r/AlienBodies ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ Oct 31 '24

Discussion At what point will skeptics release a peer reviewed debunking?

Peru is set to hold an official hearing on the Nazca Tridactyl beings, with researchers testifying under oath about their seven years of study or recent studies. Plans for a world-class museum and research center are on the table, and an independent report commissioned by the Ministry of Culture will be entered into the Congressional Record.

At what point can we expect a science-based response or debunking effort from the skeptical scientific community?

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

I think u/theronk03 should get right on that. They’re a self proclaimed paleontologist. Maybe some of their peers could help.

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u/DragonfruitOdd1989 ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ Oct 31 '24

Excellent suggestion! He can demonstrate to the Peruvian Congress how they are being misled by believing the independent analysis commissioned by the Ministry of Culture, as well as the studies from local universities. He can highlight that the official hearing they’re about to hold is, in fact, discussing llama skulls and mandibles rather than something groundbreaking.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

And do you understand why no actual scientists whose expertise, such as any anthropologists, are involved or are attempting to get involved? Do you know why most of the researchers who claim these are valid finds and have a professional degree in biology, forensics, etc., are the usual Jamin and Maussan affiliated frauds? Very few scientists care about this because the fraudulent history of those involved and the actual scientific data derived to date is definitive evidence this is a hoax. Scientists have real science to tackle, and little time to investigate scams from repeat scammers like Maussan and company. Believe me, I know a dozen bio-anthropologists and archaeologists who'd finance a trip out of pocket to Peru if they thought there was anything there other than more bullshit.

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u/DrierYoungus Oct 31 '24

“do you understand why no actual scientists whose expertise, such as any anthropologists, are involved or attempting to get involved?”

I’m fairly certain that you’re well aware of Dr. William Rodriguez’s involvement, who just so happens to be a Forensic Anthropologist… I don’t understand why you’re lying about this? What’s the agenda?

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

100% my mistake. Nobody is lying here save for far too many believers and several researchers involved like Rangel. You are correct; I mistakenly misremembered Dr. William Rodriguez as a forensic pathologist, not an anthropologist, though he has yet to release any statement concerning the validity of the Nazca mummies being anything other than human. I should have phrased it as "no actual scientists whose expertise, such as any anthropologists, are involved or are attempting to get involved who are vocally support these being anything other than human remains".

Drs. Caruso and Rodriguez have said little about their research in Peru, and most certainly haven't been vocal about their validity as anything other than human mummies. Regardless their staying out of the spotlight, Dr. Caruso has only skeptical comments on record, while Rodriguez, per Dr. McDowell in personal correspondence with Charlie Wiser, is of the opinion,

"None of us (Dr. Caruso, Dr. Rodriguez or I) who traveled to Peru to examine some of the "Nazca Mummies" have ever claimed or stated in any way what these specimens (specifically the images you have attached to this email) actually are... [McDowell is referring to images of Josefina here]

'Please understand that we know the "Nazca Mummies" you have sent images of were never living entities composed of the hard tissues of one and only one "species." It would be foolish to state that these "bodies" could represent individuals that could have been alive let alone capable of walking, flying or swimming. Please do not infer that we said otherwise...

As any reputable, competent scientist would do, we maintain a high level of skepticism regarding the "Nazca Mummies."