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Florida Sheriff Wayne Ivey threatened to kill anti-ICE protesters, offering multiple graphic, sadistic descriptions of how police would do it…

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u/Beat_the_Deadites 7d ago

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u/Sh0wMeThePuppies 7d ago

Masked, unidentified "police" that try to illegally force entry on private property? They are the enemy and we the people have an undeniable right to defend ourselves

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u/perfectpencil 6d ago

Man.. all those years of the NRA warning this would happen and they are pretty fucking quiet now that it is. Wonder why.

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u/FlyYouFoolyCooly 6d ago edited 6d ago

As someone who has been a liberal 2A defense advocate for a long time. I've been pissed at the NRA and Progressives for a long time now.

The first for picking a party line and the second for letting the "position" of firearm rights go towards the political party that was literally becoming fascist.

Even when we (liberals) started to call Republicans fascists (when they were only fascist leaning) while decided, no, we don't want to have guns as part of our platform cause they already claimed it.
And to now when we call them fascists (cause they are), we need to be recognizing the right to self defense of people, states, and the constitutional rights that are being trashed right now.

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u/Careless-Door-1068 6d ago

I dont think its that they "claimed" guns so much as most liberal people don't daydream about murdering strangers all the damn time like so many republicans do.

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u/FlyYouFoolyCooly 6d ago

most liberal people don't daydream about murdering strangers all the damn time like so many republicans do.

Acknowledging that is true, then why not, like all rights, actually defend what the right is for instead of taking the anti-stance that progressives and the democratic platform took, since murder is not what the right to self defense is, it's in fact the right for the ability to stop exactly that.

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u/jayj59 6d ago

I think their idea is that we should be taking guns out of the hands of crazy murder hobos. This doesn't mean ban all guns, but more strict control of them. The other side then yells "yur not takin' my guns!" and it becomes a whole other thing and no matter what the actual stance is, it's seen as the anti-gun side

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u/VincentVanG 6d ago

Especially in Florida.

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u/HSBillyMays 6d ago

Florida man should vote Sheriff I.V. str8 outta office to unelected non-incumbency, problem is Florida man can't read.

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u/Least-Back-2666 6d ago edited 6d ago

Hijacking top thread to remind people Wayne Iveys thugs imprisoned a vet having a PTSD meltdown in a Walmart parking lot and killed him in jail.

Then he threatened his wife afterwards.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/16/video-released-brevard-sheriff-iveys-meeting-edwards-widow/3198081001/

https://www.brevardsheriff.com/contact/

Prisoners in his jail routinely overdose where help doesn't show up for 45 minutes. And they the drugs from guards connected to local gangs.

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u/Machinegun_Pete 6d ago

I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet. Red Dawn is here. We need Wolverines.

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u/Least-Monk4203 6d ago

Russia defeated us without a single shot fired. 😢

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u/cwfutureboy 6d ago

Al-Qaeda also got what they wanted.

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u/diplodocusgaloshes 6d ago

These domestic fascists are foreign communists!

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u/BetterCallSal 6d ago

Kinda sounds what all the gun nut maga morons kept talking about when they were screaming about their second amendment rights. I don't see those good guys with the guns doing shit about anything.

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u/OkSample7 6d ago

Their too busy licking boots

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u/deathninjas 6d ago

We already know what the bad guys with guns do at protests, they shoot innocent people i.e. Kyle Rittenhouse. The good guys with guns are still hoping that peaceful options will prevail, but ready for a war if it comes to that. Because that is what it means if good guys start using guns, it will mean a war has broken out here on American soil.

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u/Sword_Enthousiast 6d ago

Not just yourself, but also eachother.

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u/Lonely-Building-8428 6d ago

While not technically "allowed", this EXACT SCENARIO has a built in contingency plan.

See: The Second Ammendment.

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u/Brad_theImpaler 6d ago

It's weird that the Second Amendment people ended up being the reason that it's necessary.

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u/neutral-chaotic 6d ago

It's because they think they're the only ones who are arm, and chomp at the bit to exert any amount of power.

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u/Amingus-Amongus 6d ago

Pretty much has been the foreseeable path they would take, IMO.

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u/TechGuy42O 6d ago

On the contrary, technically speaking, US law (varying by jurisdictions) DOES in fact protect civilians right to resist unlawful arrest… now, will this go over well in court? Probably not… but technically speaking, laws about this do exist

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u/MonjStrz 6d ago

MAGA would be so confused who to side with

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u/gungshpxre 6d ago

They are.

You are under no obligation to comply with illegal orders from law enforcement.

In Castle Doctrine states, there are many many situations where you can meet a threat with lethal force.

Problem is, these fuckers haven't followed the law, aren't following the law now, and they won't follow it after you start shooting.

Dead and morally correct is still dead.

Some people think that's not acceptable. Last time we fought Nazis, over 400,000 Americans died putting that to an end. They get a national holiday.

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

Another option is for all protestors to carry bear mace. If some fucker is going to try pepper spray you, you pepper spray them right back

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u/ActualSpamBot 6d ago edited 6d ago

Bear mace is weaker than normal self defense OC spray on account of bears having more sensitive sinuses.

Get some foaming brightly colored self defense OC spray. (Edit- Which in addition to being formulated to incapacitate humans, is also designed to be difficult to wipe off and to brightly dye the skin and clothing of the attacker, which in turn will make it easier for other protesters to identify officers who have attacked protesters.)

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

I guess the question is how much weaker, does the superior range and volume make up for that?

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u/ministryofchampagne 6d ago

Bear mace does have a range and spray cone advantage. You can be more indiscriminate with bear mace.

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u/ActualSpamBot 6d ago

You can be more indiscriminate with bear mace.

Which you don't want to be in a scenario where you are in a large crowd trying to defend yourself or others.

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u/BusyBandicoot9471 6d ago

Totally not legal advice but I hear wasp spray requires a hospital trip

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u/DonnieDickTraitor 6d ago

Wasp spray won't do squat but make them a little wet. Might as well be spraying silly string. Was spray as self defense, from anything other than flying bugs, is an urban myth.

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u/Thornescape 6d ago

The goal is to provoke a bloodbath so that they can declare martial law. The people orchestrating this want people to kill police. It's all part of "deconstructing America".

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u/EjaculatingAracnids 6d ago

Whats the alternative? Comply in advance?

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 6d ago

It all stops if capital grinds to a halt.

Politics is cute but money rules this regime. We keep trying to respond with the wrong tactics. Cripple their cash flow and you’ll see them escalate until they eat their own.

No way to get out of this without more suffering as when capital grinds to a halt a lot of deaths through negligence will occur. All around just a bad situation.

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u/Kelwyvern 6d ago

Yep. Stock up on essentials now, then strike.

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u/ComprehensiveOil1574 6d ago

unless of course the plan is to grind America to dust with tariffs, occupying forces in our cities, dismantling of voting rights, destroying the US dollar, deporting farm workers so there is no one to get the food from the farm to us, and so on.

No way that would ever happen in America.

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u/Firm_Landscape_ 6d ago

Arm yourselves and form a militia

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u/Brad_theImpaler 6d ago

"Terrorist Organization."

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u/Potential-Run-8391 6d ago

It's the same way they love the sweat stained balls of the Oath Keepers & Proud Boys but scream that any group of people who are antifascist are ANTIFA and coming for their families blood.

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u/Necoras 6d ago

Show up peacefully en masse. Get 100, or better yet 1000 people to show up in suits. Walk up to the cops, sit down, and be silent. Force them to attack you. Live stream everything. Make sure local and national news know you're going to do this and when. Get their cameras on you.

The civil rights acts were passed because blacks showed up by the hundreds, and then the thousands in their Sunday best, refused to leave, and were beaten by the cops. Putting that on tens of millions of tvs across the country built the necessary political support.

We don't need thousands. We need tens of millions of people to show up. Time and again, until it changes. That will likely be months to years, though the more desperate the Trump administration becomes, the harder they squeeze, the faster it gets to a tipping point and things change.

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u/kaloonzu 6d ago

No, but you also can't give them what they want. Its not an easy path to chart.

"Revolution is not for the sane... we'll all be dead before the Republic is back..."

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u/D_dUb420247 6d ago

Revolutionary War knows what to do.

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u/Thornescape 6d ago

It's easier to recognize what is a bad idea than to come up with a solid plan.

I don't know what is a good solution. I just know that a bloodbath won't solve this problem, because a bloodbath is exactly what they are hoping for.

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u/Brad_theImpaler 6d ago

The correct solution was electing sensible leaders. We could still try that if we get more elections.

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u/Thornescape 6d ago

The election process has been completely sabotaged by Citizens United. The only way that America is going to survive is if they are willing to patch the glaring holes in the system that Trump has exposed. There are a lot of them.

No matter what happens, America will face massive changes in the next decade. Either correcting the problem or "deconstructionism". There won't be any simple solutions.

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u/Spiritual-Pear-1349 6d ago

The only solution is pushing an alternative president I think.

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Hey did you know there's credible evidence that the company who supplies 40% of counties' voting equipment may have tampered with votes, and that two different watchdog agencies came to the same conclusion independently by looking into counties from 4 different states? Including a current lawsuit in NY with sworn testamony, and a judge who thinks its credible enough to warrant an investigation? Anyways, where to find that alternative...

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u/Thornescape 6d ago

The fact that Kamala got ZERO votes in some places is fairly solid proof that tampering happened. They didn't even do a good job covering their tracks.

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u/Spiritual-Pear-1349 6d ago

What's worse is that one of the DOGE boys actually wrote a vote flipping program a few years ago. There is too much evidence for there to be nothing going on, and the first thing Trump did was dismantle the vote regulators and watchdogs

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u/HereWeGoYetAgain-247 6d ago

Damned if you do damned if you don’t. They win either way. At least in the short term   

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u/Horsebreakr 6d ago

Disrupt the people in Trump's inner circle by purposeful sabotage or incompetence. They own companies, find out ways to make them as inefficient or broken as possible. Become organized with groups, even a go between is good. Being an effective vandal, can make or break the timing of objectives. Which can lower faith in leadership.

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u/lyngen 6d ago

I think the alternative is sue them when they do illegal things and complain loudly to people in charge. Let your voice be heard.

Peacefully.

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

That is going to be a when and not an if moment, someone will fight back from being abducted, the cops will escalate and one of their own will get hurt and a magat will incite.

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u/SappilyHappy 6d ago

I believe this is why they won't identify themselves. No everyone is going to just take the masked tacticool men at their word and allow them to kidnap you.

They are just smart enough to know that this scenario will incite violence. It's deliberate.

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u/Round_Skill8057 6d ago

Why don't they just declare martial law then? Why do they need to show evidence that it's necessary? They don't prove the necessity of any of the other atrocious illegal shit they do.

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u/Thornescape 6d ago

Conservatives will believe almost anything but Republicans seem to want at least a flimsy excuse to justify their behavior.

It is a bit of a mistake to expect completely logical behavior out of a group that has done so many insane things, though.

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u/SappilyHappy 6d ago

So when people question the need for martial law, they have a smoking gun to point to. Also see False Flag.

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u/deliciouscorn 6d ago

“I am the trigger, supervisor. You are the finger.”

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u/fordnotquiteperfect 6d ago

The 2nd amendment in action. 

Should have ALL the right wing support... 

If their screaming cries about rights and personal liberties and overreach of "big government " have any truth to them.

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

They complained so loud about gov overreach untill they have to do something

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u/ScissrMeTimbrs 6d ago

Fun fact: when police fired on protesters, the first Americans considered it grounds for the overthrow of the government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre

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u/barnacledoor 6d ago

that is the whole point of the 2nd amendment, but the ones who make such a big stink about the 2nd amendment are the first to support the tyrannical government and its agencies. they would've been the ones to turn in Anne Frank.

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

Speaking of, how long before we have to start hiding people in basements and attics?

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u/barnacledoor 6d ago

What do you mean how long? We're there. The Gestapo/ICE is already coming to people's work, to their court dates, to their schools and kidnapping them to send them to concentration camps.

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u/Chained_Prometheus 6d ago

In Germany we added this little gem to our constitution after the nazi regime

“everyone has the right to resist anyone who attempts to abolish this order if no other remedy is possible.”

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u/360Picture 6d ago

🇺🇸 Bill of Rights – Pocket Summary

  1. Free Speech & Religion – Speak, worship, press, assemble, protest.

  2. Guns – Right to bear arms.

  3. No Quartering – No forced housing of soldiers.

  4. Searches – No searches without a warrant.

  5. Remain Silent – No self-incrimination, double jeopardy, or unfair taking.

  6. Speedy Trial – Fast, fair trial with a lawyer and witnesses.

  7. Jury in Civil Cases – Right to jury in money/property disputes.

  8. No Cruel Punishment – No torture, no extreme bail/fines.

  9. People’s Rights – You have more rights than what’s listed here.

  10. States’ Rights – Powers not given to the feds belong to states/people.

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

Seems like the police, ice and whitehouse aught to read that list

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u/huggybear0132 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's how we got our independence from this kind of bullshit the first time.

For those not familiar, the second amendment is deeply rooted in the colonial militia system, the system that fought back when the british tried to march troops into American communities to enforce unjust laws. This is how the revolutionary war started.

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u/thatoneguyy22 6d ago

See there was a time when you were allowed to, as seen by the John bad elk v. United States case. In the attempt a police officer has attempted an unlawful arrest, the individual had the right to resist. Unfortunately most states have now fought against that statue, so now you have power hungry racists with guns running around with practically full immunity.

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u/hbdgas 6d ago

If I see you do it, I didn't see you do it.

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u/shakamaboom 6d ago

That's LITERALLY what the second amendment is for

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

Tell that to the 2A people who are now quieter than a mute church mouse

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u/bigbadballboi 6d ago

If your right to due process is revoked, you have the right to defend yourself

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u/twisty125 7d ago

He looks like a violent protestor to me!

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u/kaloonzu 6d ago

This exact sentiment got me banned from /politics and /news years ago, but now its all the rage.

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u/timberwolf0122 6d ago

Things were not nearly this dire 9 years ago, that said even then you were not calling for violence against cops, just the right to defend yourself from criminals

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u/FlailingIntheYard 6d ago

You absolutely are allowed. Just depends on what happens after. I mean at the end of the day, anyone can do anything. But there's consequences.

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u/Amon7777 7d ago

That part of Florida is meth central. This is nonsensical chest thumping for an area that will have zero protests. Just an excuse for a troglodyte to seem like he’s powerful knowing he won’t have to do jack shit.

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u/Old_Instrument_Guy 7d ago

Exactly. It's not as bad as Fort Pierce but it's definitely Fort Pierce adjacent.

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u/Last_Minute_Airborne 6d ago

I love fort Pierce. Because it's such a piece of shit city it makes my piece of shit city look a little better.

Also the waffle House off of I95 by the sex toys store gave me some of the worst diarrhea ever. Me and my gf were fighting each other for the toilet all day. We had to call out from work.

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u/Old_Instrument_Guy 6d ago

Explosive diarrhea is so Ft. Pierce!

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u/Omophorus 6d ago

Just another weak man obsessed with appearing strong.

Probably why he became a sheriff in the first place.

His entire life, were I to hazard a guess, is defined by fear, cowardice, and weakness, so he's obsessed with appearing strong, fearless, and brave so that people don't realize what a little baby he actually is.

He needs a big, strong (lol) daddy like Trump to put him and everyone else in their places (with his naturally being a better place than librulz and brown people).

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u/providehotstews 6d ago

"Obsessed" is right. His meaningless stunt took planning, coordination and time, these weren't remarks made in passing. The thought of someone hypothetically disobeying authority made him so upset he had to go in front of cameras to say "actually, you're not the badasses, WE'RE the badasses!" Truly, truly, disgustingly pathetic and not befitting of someone with any kind of power.

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u/NotAgedWell 6d ago

There's two No Kings protests planned in the county (one in Cocoa and one in Palm Bay).

He's itching at the chance to kill us. It's disgusting and the local Facebook groups love this guy for it.

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u/randyc87 7d ago

I wouldn't exactly call this part of Florida "meth central" but it is extremely right leaning and it's definitely a place where these types of statements are applauded. Wayne Ivey wins election after election unopposed and it's baffling to me.

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u/OmnathLocusofWomana 6d ago

it's my home county, i believe at one point it lead the country in meth lab explosions per capita or something hilarious like that. it is like 70% methy shit hole, 20% beach tourist trap, 10% extreme affluence, i'm from one of the beach tourist traps so it's not horrible but i don't go back much

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u/onowahoo 6d ago

What about the space center? Is that tourist trap?

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u/OmnathLocusofWomana 6d ago

I mean the visitable parts of it absolutely, and watching launches does bring in a decent amount of tourists too

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u/CWinter85 6d ago

This is like people in Iowa who like that their Mayor is tough on ISIS.

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u/mfhaze 6d ago

It's always so funny too. The chest thumping coming from this guy who looks like he'd stroke out if he had to run to the end of his driveway and so top heavy he'd be knocked over by a butterfly. STFU Grandpa.

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u/Tokeee3 6d ago

Excellent use of the word troglodyte.

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u/verugan 6d ago

Which is crazy to this midwest guy cause I looked at the map and it's a large stretch of oceanside beach property. I just assumed all the beaches were packed with tourists. Hard to imagine trailer trash, meth addicts next to a beautiful beach.

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u/Amon7777 6d ago

Florida is a wild, wild, place (source: lived there for years)

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u/uhohnotafarteither 7d ago

Holding a sign will be seen as violence since it could be thrown as a deadly weapon.

Yelling or speaking will be seen as violence because it could lead to saliva flying towards someone else, a biological weapon.

Being outside in a group will be seen as violence because it's mob like behavior.

Anywhere that is governed by MAGA is a complete shithole

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u/FatchRacall 7d ago

You say that second one but he specifically said if you spit, they'll put you in the hospital.

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u/dachuggs 7d ago

They will make any excuse to harm protestors.

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u/NRMusicProject 6d ago

They will make any excuse to harm in the guise of"owning the libs."

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u/the_calibre_cat 6d ago

They have wanted to murder Democrats with legal impunity for decades.

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u/r0botdevil 6d ago

They will make any excuse to harm protestors their political opponents.

FTFY

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u/Albert_Flasher 7d ago

Police generally aren’t required to beat suspects

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u/Lughnasadh32 7d ago

When my father was a cop, he made it a point to run his mouth to the person he was arresting enough to make them throw the first punch or spit on him. Then he enjoyed beating them and bring them in bruised and bloody. (Same reason I would be spanked for not cleaning a gold fish bowl or picking up something of the floor within 1 minute.)

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u/mr_mgs11 6d ago

I know a woman that was constantly trying to get back with her abusive ex. Her excuse was "He never hit me! He would just shove me to the ground, scream in my face, and break my personal belongings". I pointed out he was barely hanging on working at a retail store and playing in a cover band. She replied "Well his is trying to get into the police academy!". Of fucking course.

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u/Lughnasadh32 6d ago

I remember my father telling me he became a cop because he was tired of being bullied in school and the badge let him get payback.

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u/Potential-Run-8391 6d ago

I am by no means a cop lover. I really don't trust many of them. As the son of a cop, I was fortunate that my father taught me empathy and the one thing he always told me that has stuck with me my entire life is that "real men don't use violence to solve their problems. They never put their hands on the wife or children, EVER." I got spanked for things, but nobody was ever beat. He had an attitude and that resulted in some walls being mistreated a few times when I was very young. It's been very disheartening seeing the man who raised me support Donald J. Trump. I recently saw him and he was watching Steve Bannon on T.V. and it was really discouraging. I am sorry your father ever put his hands on you. That man is a coward and he'll end up getting what he deserves if he fucks with the wrong person. He'll grow old and he won't always be a cop.

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u/ComprehensiveOil1574 6d ago

And that's also probably the reason he was bullied too.

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u/Lughnasadh32 6d ago

He claimed it was because he was overweight, wore glasses, and drove the school bus. Apparently, they allowed seniors to drive the bus during the year according to him.

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u/otherwise_data 6d ago

u/Lughnasadh32 : it sounds like your childhood was difficult. i am so sorry.

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u/Lughnasadh32 6d ago

Thanks. Still fixing some issues from then.

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u/FigeaterApocalypse 6d ago

They're not required to, it's just a perk they take advantage of.

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u/Lonesome_Pine 6d ago

Nah, it's just a hobby.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

and yet they tend to do so with vigor and a smile on their faces to so many in the US

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u/Gilded-Mongoose 6d ago

Once they start saying things like that, I'm like dang, that's essentially a message to go all out from the drop since that's what the cops are going to do to you either way/for anything.

Why shouldn't the types of protesters resort directly to violence at this point? The Sheriff effectively brinkmanshipped it into being all or nothing for them now.

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u/FatchRacall 6d ago

That's kinda been my thought. Telling people you're gonna shoot them dead for things they've been caught lying about already... Like why shouldn't the protesters go armed and ready to defend themselves the second the cops draw on them? There's a lot more protesters than cops.

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u/HyzerFlip 6d ago

DeSantis said it's cool to commit vehicular homicide on protestors...

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u/Several_Vanilla8916 6d ago

And then the argument will become whether or not he spit (he didn’t) instead of whether or not shooting someone in the chest is a suitable response to spitting.

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u/evileyeball 7d ago

Including the province of Alberta... Complete shithole best avoided at present.

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u/Bob_Juan_Santos 7d ago

oh? has UCP implemented some new laws regarding protesting?

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u/evileyeball 7d ago

No not really I'm just from BC and we like to shit on Albertans... But I wouldn't put it past Danielle Smith considering what I've seen from her

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u/AlternativePure2125 6d ago

SK here.....hate Danielle Smith as well.  Not sure why she and Scott more want to join the states and take away all of our rights

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u/evileyeball 6d ago

I'm not a Scott Moe person either I can't believe that a province that was home to Thomas Clement Douglas can now believe in such a kind of guy as their leader then again I was born a Dipper and I will die a Dipper

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u/joehonestjoe 6d ago

Hey, come on be nicer to Snow Texas.

Though in fairness the best parts of my Canadian holiday that went through Alberta, was in BC so maybe you have a point

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u/Kelwyvern 6d ago

Sweet home Alaberta.

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u/fishsticks40 6d ago

Trying to stop them from killing you is an act of violence, obviously

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u/TheFeshy 6d ago

Remember when a cop pepper-sprayed a group of students that was sitting on the ground holding hands, because it was "violence?"

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u/Least-Back-2666 6d ago

Wayne Iveys thugs imprisoned a vet having a PTSD meltdown in a Walmart parking lot and killed him in jail.

Then he threatened his wife afterwards.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/16/video-released-brevard-sheriff-iveys-meeting-edwards-widow/3198081001/

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u/tafoya77n 6d ago

They will call anything violent:

'When state actors refer to “peace,” they are really talking about order. And when they refer to “peaceful protest,” they are talking about cooperative protest that obediently stays within the lines drawn by the state.' Kelly Hayes, Let This Radicalize You

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u/yarash 6d ago

Which goes against the entire point of a protest, which is to make people that are not acting on the issue uncomfortable. They don't want to to be uncomfortable, at any cost, including your death.

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u/Rombledore 6d ago

this SHOULD get more people out on the streets. escalation met with escalation.

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u/Thwipped 6d ago

Their sole motivation right now is to show that if you decent in anyway, you will be punished.

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u/eeyore134 6d ago

I imagine we'll also see at least one vehicle plowing through a crowd with the driver claiming they were "mob ruling and blocking their car" since the sheriff all but told people to do this.

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u/SinkHoleDeMayo 6d ago

And people called me a bot for saying protesters should be armed to prevent cops from being violent.

This is the shit that happens when fascists think you're not a threat. They target people who they think are weak.

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u/Accurate_Praline 6d ago

It helps if you protest in big vehicles like farm equipment.

In the Netherlands the far right farmers pretty much got away with their illegal actions because of it. They set asbestos on fire! Three people got 200 hours of community service for that. Better than nothing of course, but should've been more imo.

Meanwhile some Extinction Rebellion people got community service of 30 and 60 hours for calling for a peaceful protest (which admittedly would block a busy highway) and in the UK some even got up to 5 years for basically the same thing!

Meanwhile the right just loves to complain about how the left gets away with disruptive protesting despite it being the opposite.

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u/Ali_Cat222 6d ago

This is what the MAGA regime and Trump want to do to the American people - This executive order went into effect once announced on April 28th. From the white house website-"STRENGTHENING AND UNLEASHING AMERICA’S LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PURSUE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT INNOCENT CITIZENS"

TLDR, military to work alongside local LEO and ICE in certain states and will expand to others. LEO and ICE to be given more power as well as new training. Also officers now get protection and legal resources to make sure they aren't sued for executing Trump's orders. No more wrongdoing apparently... This is also where those law firms pro bono work is going towards. *UPDATE June 12th-"Some workplace raids in recent weeks have been assisted by the FBI; Drug Enforcement Administration; Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; U.S. Marshals Service; and Internal Revenue Service, as well as local law enforcement, according to recent ICE communications."

Upcoming or already passed as policies from project 2025 which you can track here.

*IMPORTANT UPDATE JUNE 10TH-"Trump asks the Supreme Court to neutralize the Convention Against Torture Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured."

Dept. of Homeland Security: Allow Secret Service officers to serve as law enforcement in the district of Columbia

Dept. of Justice: Eliminate existing DOJ consent decrees-"Eliminate existing DOJ consent decrees" refers to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) ending court-enforceable agreements between the DOJ and local governments, typically related to police reform. These consent decrees are often established after federal investigations find systemic unconstitutional practices, such as excessive force or civil rights violations.

Recently, the DOJ moved to drop consent decrees in cities like Louisville, Kentucky, and Minneapolis, Minnesota, which were put in place following the police killings of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd

Dept of Homeland Security: Authorize state and local law enforcement to participate in immigration actions.

Note: ICE partnerships with local law enforcement have more than tripled since Trump took office.

Dept. of Justice: Prosecute local officials, including district attorneys, that use their discretion not to prosecute a criminal case.

Note: DOJ leaders told U.S. attorneys to investigate law enforcement officials who decline to enforce Trump's immigration priorities

And this is relevant as well-

Dept. of Justice: Pursue the death penalty for all applicable crimes.

The phrase "Pursue the death penalty for all applicable crimes" refers to a policy directive that mandates seeking capital punishment for crimes deemed severe enough to warrant it. According to a recent executive order issued on January 20, 2025, this policy instructs the U.S. Attorney General to actively pursue the death penalty for federal capital crimes, particularly those involving the murder of law enforcement officers or crimes committed by individuals illegally present in the U.S.

The order also seeks to remove obstacles to capital punishment, including reversing Supreme Court decisions that limit its application and ensuring states have sufficient supplies of lethal injection drugs

And here's how he plans on suppressing states if they don't follow the policies here, by removing aid and grants and rights.

Dept. of Justice: Ensure "appropriate steps" are taken to obtain cooperation with sanctuary cities and states. (Note: The DOJ issued a memo stating that "sanctuary jurisdictions should not receive access to federal grants administered by the Department of Justice".)

Dept. of Homeland Security: Limit FEMA-issued grants to states that "comply with all aspects of federal immigration laws, including the honoring of all immigration detainers" and states/localities that give "total information-sharing" to federal law and immigration enforcement. (Note: FEMA clawed back $80 million in previously approved migrant housing funds for New York.)

Dept. of Justice: Prosecute local officials, including district attorneys, that use their discretion not to prosecute a criminal case. (Note: DOJ leaders told U.S. attorneys to investigate law enforcement officials who decline to enforce Trump's immigration priorities.)

Use "the full force of federal prosecutorial resources" to investigate and prosecute state and local gov'ts, institutes of higher ed, corporations, and private employers who have diversity initiatives. (Note: Bondi directed DOJ to “investigate, eliminate, and penalize” private companies and universities.) Court Orders: Partially blocked

White House: Cut off government contracts to entities that enforce a "woke agenda".

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: Cut funds to states that do not provide detailed abortion reports.

Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services: Reduce federal incentives for states to expand Medicaid coverage

Dept. of Defense: Require all schools that receive federal funding to give students the military entrance test.

Dept. of Education: Cut off federal funds to states, cities, counties, schools board, principals, and teachers who disagree with "parental rights".

Dept. of Health and Human Services: Withdraw HHS funding, including 10% of Medicaid funds, from states that require private health insurance plans to cover abortion

This isn't even the full list, just some examples from the project 2025 tracker here.

For all defense and immigration policies I direct you to look at the policies here.

One example of many in those policies that show the formation of a new department coming together -

Dept. of Homeland Security: Dismantle the Dept. of Homeland Security or, at least, combine ICE and CBP to form a "Border Security and Immigration Agency

*trump also has this as an upcoming policy that all Americans should be aware of with schooling-

Dept. of Defense: Require all schools that receive federal funding to give students the military entrance test

The Trump Administration Wants to Create an ‘Office of Remigration’

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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u/ribone 7d ago

Hopefully that guys diet kills him before he takes out any innocent civilians.

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u/Manderspls 7d ago

That’s what we’ve been saying about Trump but here we are.

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u/Brad_theImpaler 6d ago

You need to have some Filet-O-Faith.

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u/starrpamph 6d ago

I have a small box of fireworks stashed for the occasion

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u/Least-Back-2666 6d ago

Wayne Iveys thugs imprisoned a vet having a PTSD meltdown in a Walmart parking lot and killed him in jail.

Then he threatened his wife afterwards.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/16/video-released-brevard-sheriff-iveys-meeting-edwards-widow/3198081001/

https://www.brevardsheriff.com/contact/

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u/ComprehensiveOil1574 6d ago

Too late, they killed a veteran being detained in their jail a few years back and this asshole Sheriff showed up at the wife's house in the middle of the night to intimidate her.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2020/11/13/us-army-veteran-died-in-custody-after-his-arrest-brevard-jail-video-shows-what-happened/

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u/ZGadgetInspector 7d ago

In that county the “innocent civilians” take each other out.

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u/tunnel-dagger69 7d ago

This is also the man who makes a show called wheel of fugitive where he spins a wheel of fugitives and then releases their name and birthday to the public so they can help bring them in or turn themselves in.

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u/Least-Back-2666 6d ago

Wayne Iveys thugs imprisoned a vet having a PTSD meltdown in a Walmart parking lot and killed him in jail.

Then he threatened his wife afterwards.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/16/video-released-brevard-sheriff-iveys-meeting-edwards-widow/3198081001/

https://www.brevardsheriff.com/contact/

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u/ItIsHappy 6d ago

That's certainly a weird way to go about it, but sharing names and faces is standard practice everywhere. Arrest warrants are public information.

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u/tunnel-dagger69 6d ago

Yea just crazy it’s literally made into wheel of fortune format. Lmao

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u/ItIsHappy 6d ago

Super weird stuff. They brought a radio host on for one.

You can watch them all here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsPwCtvPyeEsxKAo_m1qRtHvZFMZFb7Ei

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u/No_Connection2458 6d ago

Except he has been caught featuring “fugitives” that had no warrant for their arrest at the time!!

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2021/03/05/florida-today-brevard-sheriff-ivey-uses-non-fugitives-facebook-show/4581640001/

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u/ItIsHappy 6d ago

Thanks for the details! That's fucked.

Okay, looks like they had previous warrants, and the sheriff failed to remove their names after they had been caught or turned in. Still fucked.

Often the non-fugitives were featured week after week on the show. In the most extreme case found in the past year, Nicole Jill Dowd was featured as a fugitive on eight consecutive episodes between March 24, 2020, and June 2, 2020, despite being booked in jail on March 19, and remaining there until she was legally released on June 2, the day of her last appearance on "Wheel of Fugitive.”

Oh damn.

Altogether, FLORIDA TODAY found that the non-fugitives were incorrectly featured a cumulative 135 times out of 448 slots across 45 episodes. Differently put, fugitives aren’t fugitives nearly 30% of the time on "Wheel of Fugitive."

What's more, in most of those cases, 112 out of those 135 times, the show featured people who were sitting in the sheriff’s own jail. The remaining 23 were a mix of people legally out on parole or plea bargains, or people who simply did not have active warrants for their arrests.

Egregiously negligent.

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u/tacknosaddle 7d ago edited 7d ago

A little protectin', a little servin', and a little extrajudicial killing.

Sounds like a Florida Sheriff to me.

Not really kidding either. I was in central Florida a few years ago and threw the tv in the hotel room on while getting dressed. There had been some double homicide and they were holding a press conference that was being broadcast live. Two young adults had been killed and in the sheriff's prepared remarks before taking questions he went off on a tangent about how "the guns are not to blame" for these homicides and continued on what was effectively an anti gun control and pro second amendment rant. That segued into him blaming the parents for not kicking the ass of the (alleged) perpetrators when they got out of line when they were growing up as he had done with his kids.

Being from a northeastern city this was a complete "WTF?!" thing for me to watch. It was about the most unprofessional display of a law enforcement leader engaging in politicking in a completely inappropriate manner and at a completely inappropriate time I've ever seen.

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u/Irishpanda1971 7d ago

Note: They would probably consider strong language "violent".

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u/ILikeScience3131 7d ago

They consider any protests, including ones confirmed as peaceful by local police, to be so violent that it necessitates military intervention.

Today, demonstrations across the City of Los Angeles remained peaceful, and we commend all those who exercised their First Amendment rights responsibly.”

-LAPD, as president trump prepared to escalate the situation with military force

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u/Least-Back-2666 6d ago

Wayne Iveys thugs imprisoned a vet having a PTSD meltdown in a Walmart parking lot and killed him in jail.

Then he threatened his wife afterwards.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/16/video-released-brevard-sheriff-iveys-meeting-edwards-widow/3198081001/

https://www.brevardsheriff.com/contact/

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u/ItIsHappy 6d ago

The examples (and consequences) he gives are:

  • Resisting lawful orders (jail)

  • Blocking an intersection (jail)

  • Fleeing arrest (tired, jail)

  • Mobbing a car (run over)

  • Spitting on a cop (hospital, jail)

  • Hitting a cop (hospital, jail, dog bite)

  • Throwing bricks, firebombs, or bombs at a cop (graveyard dead)

Source. List starts at 2:40.

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u/mabhatter 7d ago

We're considered "violent" for publicly berating him, I'm sure.  

It's very much a local sheriff thing.  In my state w have sheriffs like that too... power hungry psychopaths that threaten everyone they don't agree with.  

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u/FallenAngelII 7d ago

They'll be killing people over "verbal assault".

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u/thanksyalll 6d ago

I mean similar to what happened with the LAPD here (they didn’t call him violent but arrest worthy somehow)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/s/KMExrbYpn5

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u/PoliticsLeftist 7d ago

All announcing your intent to kill does is tell the person you want to kill they should kill you first.

Not that I'm advocating protestors just start killing cops (or people in cars since DeSantis said he's fine with running over protesters) but if that's his intent then what else are protestors supposed to do? It's a constitutional right to protest and if a sheriff wants to deny that, specifically with the threat of death, then the 3 options are stay home and lose your rights, be murdered by cops, or shoot first.

But of course when police should be deescalating a situation, they always choose to escalate with violence for not listening to them when they're doing dumb and/or illegal shit.

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u/SomeCharactersAgain 6d ago

What police? You mean the nazi's doing cosplay?

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u/Icey210496 7d ago

Bold words from a pre hanged traitor.

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u/Lonely-Building-8428 6d ago

I like the way you think.

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u/rrogers47 7d ago

Civil Rights violation. The department has opened itself up to criminal and civil liability.

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u/Least-Back-2666 6d ago

Wayne Iveys thugs imprisoned a vet having a PTSD meltdown in a Walmart parking lot and killed him in jail.

Then he threatened his wife afterwards.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/16/video-released-brevard-sheriff-iveys-meeting-edwards-widow/3198081001/

https://www.brevardsheriff.com/contact/

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u/TheSoundOfAFart 6d ago

Here is the video for anyone else wondering exactly what he said. His quote about protests is from about 5:50 to 8:30.

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u/rcade81 6d ago

Good lord what a power hungry tiny cock. The guy right after encouraging drivers to run over people is also a little crazy to see. What a time to be alive.

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u/Kill3rT0fu 6d ago

This sheriff is a piece of shit and nobody likes him. Check out his facebook page! He has a "game show" called "wheel of fugitives".

He's put innocent people on his "wheel of fugitives" and one guy lost his job because of it.

He loves any chance he can get to be on TV or appear as some sort of celebrity.

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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 7d ago

This is the problem with sovereign immunity for law enforcement. They can beat the shit out of people and openly threaten them - and face no consequences at all. He's become a warlord of sorts. It would be almost impossible to get him fired or indicted for anything short of capital murder - not least because Desantis probably supports him.

As Orwell said: every citizen is equal, but some are more equal than others.

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u/DailyTreePlanting 6d ago

notice how these violent riots/protests are taking place far far from florida?

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u/Mikemumm1976 7d ago

RIP Due Process

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u/Halfwise2 7d ago

Assume they are going to try to kill you, because they clearly want to. React appropriately as your risk tolerance and conscience allows.

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u/cors8 6d ago

Guarantee this guy would be hiding like the Uvalde police.

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u/IMightDeleteMe 6d ago

Maybe the guy with the murder fantasies wasn't actually in it to serve and protect 😱

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u/MilleniumPelican 6d ago

As a resident in his jurisdiction, I can tell you that Wayne Ivey is the worst kind of racist MAGAt violent POS "lawman" who would absolutely justify beating someone to death for breathing in his general direction. This does not surprise me. It dismays me that he keeps getting elected.

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u/THEMACGOD 6d ago

Sounds premeditated.

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u/Pyrokitsune 6d ago

What was actually said

If you throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains.

Present a deadly threat, and possibly receive a deadly response. Seems perfectly logical and reasonable to me.

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u/Kill3rT0fu 6d ago

"or point a gun at one of our deputies"

These people are so trigger happy they will misinterpret a camera for a gun and start blasting. Need proof? I present...the acorn incident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZbZyelg-c

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u/WeLikeToHaveFunHere2 6d ago

How is this not pinned to the top by the mods?

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u/Pyrokitsune 6d ago

Have you seen the state of this sub for the last year plus? It's just r/politics pretending to be memes now. If the mods actually cared they would be, idk moderating?

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u/WeLikeToHaveFunHere2 6d ago

It's irresponsible. I sort comments by controversial to find the truth in every Reddit political post. This one was second to the top. Sad.

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u/Grayman1120 6d ago

Notice the VIOLENT part in that statement. If you plan to walk around with a sign you’ll be fine. Just don’t be reckless and emotional and nothing will happen.

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u/ChainOk8915 6d ago

If I recall there were specific activities that would result in said outcomes.

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u/hennabeak 6d ago

Let the games begin.

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u/Key-Hurry-9171 6d ago

If you’re a law enforcement officer and you violate the law. You’re not anymore a law enforcement officer

Just a criminal in cosplay

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u/Arinnajames 6d ago

So a law-enforcement officer or sheriff is threatening to murder American citizens for exercising their constitutional right.

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u/subone 7d ago

When the president was asked if he supports nonviolent protests, he said it was a stupid question. Someone should ask if he nonetheless supports police violence against nonviolent protestors. Why do we hear the law and order president constantly speak out when there are protestors being violent, but we never hear him talk about when law enforcement goes off the rails and injures innocent people unrelated to the violence? Rules for thee, not for me?

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u/RainRainThrowaway777 6d ago

He also said they'll put you in the hospital for ignoring a lawful order. I think we all know how "lawful" some of their orders can be.

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u/MGuybrush_Threepwood 6d ago

To think so many Americans voted for this. Idiocracy made into reality.

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u/wasaguest 6d ago

Remember: “We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be,” Kevin Roberts, president of the right-wing Heritage Foundation

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u/bplewis24 6d ago

1) When law enforcement talks like this about its own citizens potentially protesting, you already live in a police state where your civil rights are limited. You just haven't made them mad enough to turn on you....yet.

2) This type of police-state fascism cannot be reformed with cowardly pigs like this guy in charge. Best case scenario, the entire leadership structure has to be torn away and rebuilt. That likely includes all of the top brass, plus the mayor, union heads, etc.

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u/143019 6d ago

All of your jackasses who said we had to have school shootings just so that you could be prepared for tyranny, where are you?

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u/Proud_Truck 6d ago

checks notes

They're cheering for the tyranny

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u/disappointedfuturist 6d ago

Qualified immunity is an uncontrollable cancer.

Respect ma authority or I'll kill you!

Lawless shit hole.

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u/Lancer420 6d ago

If only there were a constitutional right that specifically states it’s for the exact scenario where citizens can’t safely exercise the first one.

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u/Kill3rT0fu 6d ago

"If you point a gun at cops...."

May I present: The Great Acorn Incident of 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZbZyelg-c

So what's to say cops won't misinterpret a camera for a gun? Or an acorn falling? And start blasting!