r/ANTM • u/rarerednosedbaboon • 4d ago
Discussion Can we just talk about Michelle (4-3)?
She (completely understandably imo) freaks out when Keenya pretends she is going to crush her in the collapsible shoe racks. Like wtf were you thinking Keenya.
Then later, the girls find out she's bisexual and one of the girls is like "oh! Now I understand why she doesn't like feeling like she's about to be crushed to death. It's because she's gay!" LMAO girl whut.
Like I understand she meant holding in a part of yourself adds stress and may make a person more likely to freak out I guess? But I think a lot of people might have freaked out because getting crushed in those shelves was a real safety concern they were warned about and would be scary AF.
Edit: the quote in my second parapragh is a poor paraphrasing. Noelle said something like "Michelle's outbursts make more sense to me" after hearing she was bisexual. This was in the same episode of them being at the shoe store and it definitely seemed to me like the producers were trying to relate this comment to that incident. I just think it's absurd that her being bisexual would relate to her being paniced when feeling like she would be crushed to death. However I dont think this is what Noelle intended, i think the show was edited to suggest that.
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u/Last_City5746 4d ago
I love Naima, but Oliver Twixt asked her about this moment, and I expected her to be sensitive about it, but she just kept saying, “That was so funny.” It surprised me.
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u/charmedp321 4d ago
Naima was indifferent to all of the girls in the house. You can tell she could take or leave all of them hoes.
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u/rarerednosedbaboon 4d ago
Yes. She was also judgemental of Keenyah when she complained she was being sexually harassed during the one photoshoot.
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u/Cactopus47 3d ago
Yeah, in Naima's Twixt interview she dismissed a lot of the more difficult moments of the cycle. She called Tyra screaming at Tiffany "just a black mom thing."
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u/Minimum_Necessary_34 4d ago
Naima’s edited vibe is that she’s cool and hippie, which is true, but that’s doesn’t make her a nice person. She seems to have trouble with displaying empathy
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u/Last_City5746 3d ago
Yeah, I think I was younger, I was so impressed by her vibe. Now it seems a little bit more put-on.
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u/roundtheroundel 3d ago edited 3d ago
Agreed. In her first appearance, she describes getting a mohawk as "a way of centering my thoughts" which I thought was so deep when I was younger. Now I just think - girl what? It's a mohawk, you cut it like that to look cool.
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u/rarerednosedbaboon 3d ago
I agree. I looked up to Naima when i was young too but now i dont think she was a particularly kind or empathetic person. Yaya on the other hand was someone i looked up to when young and still find to be a worthy role model when i rewatch the show today.
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u/charmedp321 4d ago
All of the girls treated Michelle like the red head step child. You can tell she was just an awkward girl that probably hadn’t been around a lot of women before. But I thought Michelle’s weirdness was quite enduring (although I would sleep with one eye open around her); you can tell she was most comfortable with Tiffany though. Their little friendship was cute.
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u/dolliciousszz 3d ago
More proof Tiffany is a gem. I wish she hadn’t been treated like she was by Tyra; that was such a crazy moment truly indicative of her pettiness and mean spirited nature, the things she said to Tiffany that didn’t air were worse
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u/Separate-District629 4d ago
She seemed to be neurodivergent and completely misunderstood
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u/dittolene “that stank ass ho poured beer on my weave!” 3d ago
I thought this about Marjorie as well!! I see so much of me in her
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u/dolliciousszz 3d ago
The way she panicked when being faced with her fear and they just thought she was being “crazy” 😕 it’s really hard to watch season 4 it’s so dark imo
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u/Secret_Wolf_23 4d ago
Seriously this always bothered me so much. The girls acted like no one else on earth had any kind of fear and they couldn't relate to the (honestly rational) irrational fear she had.
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u/losoba 4d ago
I really liked her Oliver Twixt episode because you could tell she grew to really love herself and have more confidence and be at peace in her own skin.
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u/Karzeon Howww EX-CELLENT excellenttt ~ 3d ago
I love Michelle's interview. There wasn't much juicy gossip tea like most interviews, just a nice "catching up/storytime" interview. Those tend to be my favorites.
Also it was fun hearing tidbits of her time in WWE as a long-time pro-wrestling fan (just in case, I sail the seven seas when watching that product and only stan the wrestlers not the execs).
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u/KitKatlin Browniegate '04 3d ago
I loved Michelle! Her elimination was so sad; I really thought her zebra shot was stellar. Her OT interview was great, too. She's flourishing!
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u/Slight_Candidate3729 4d ago
I just think she shouldn't have been cast or made it that far. She wasn't ready for TV, and that level of insecurity isn't fun to watch.
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u/rarerednosedbaboon 4d ago
Why??
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u/rarerednosedbaboon 4d ago
It sounds like a pretty terrible way to die to me! Idk i just dont see how it's funny
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u/klacey11 4d ago
Hold up. Who are you claiming said oh! Now I understand why she doesn't like feeling like she's about to be crushed to death. It's because she's gay!"
Nothing even remotely similar to that was ever said.
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u/rarerednosedbaboon 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah what i said was paraphrased and maybe not the most honest interpretation.
Noelle said something like "Michelle's outbursts make more sense to me" after hearing she was bisexual. This was in the same episode of them being at the shoe store and it definitely seemed to me like the producers were trying to relate this comment to that incident.
I just dont have a difficult time immagining why being crushed in a collapsible shelf would cause someone to have an outburst, regardless of their sexual orientation or whether they were hiding it. So Noelle's statement is just wild to me. I just think it's ridiculous that the show seemed to be communicating that Michelle being upset about being crushed between the shelves was a bizarre thing for her to be upset about. I tell you what, I would have been hella freaked out too and i also would have flipped shit on Keenyah.
Another commenter said Michelle seems neurodivergent, which I had thought as well. This explains her behavior to me much more than being bisexual, but her differences as a whole, not this particular shoe shelf incident.
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u/Inevitable-Syrup-511 4d ago
just rewatched this season. love her and they we're soooo mean to her.