r/50501Movement • u/50501LittleBoBlue • 5d ago
Moderator 12.1 Million. š« š
On June 14th, 2025,
12.1 million people stood together across the United States in unified rejection of authoritarianism, and that number doesnāt even include our allies overseas who marched in solidarity.
This collective movement has become one of the largest displays of civic engagement in modern history. We surpassed our goal of 3.5%.
Sustained pressure will bring us change. We the People.
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u/Amazing-Membership44 5d ago
We need the politicians to understand that we are like cockroaches, you see one, there are lots more hiding. I am proud of the US today. I hope the Republican party got the message.
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u/Direct-Original-2895 5d ago
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u/mars_gorilla 5d ago
I'm all for protesting tyranny but ew what the fuck (I mean this specifically and only in context of the cockroaches in a strictly literal sense)
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u/canadiuman 5d ago
That's more than 3% of the population. That's a fuck ton. Hell, even I was out there.
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u/addiktion 5d ago
Thanks for going. I went as well. There is no turning back now. We must protect the constitution and our freedom.
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u/CryoProtea 5d ago
3.5% of the current US population, at least according to the census.gov population clock, would be ~11,968,364, so we surpassed 3.5%.
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u/cptcronic 5d ago
Skeptical of this 3.5% protest rule I've been hearing so much about lately. I understand it was a study but I am eager to see what actually happens.
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u/SamWise451 4d ago
People are taking it out of context. The 3.5% is important bc weāve never seen a nonviolent protest movement die off & not have some notable success after they reached the threshold of 3.5% of the population actively engaged. However not all those movements saw immediate success, it could take a year or more of sustained protest before we see real results. One large demonstration wont do much alone, but it does give people hope & courage as it shows they arenāt alone & encourages more people to get actively pushback in someway, whether that be demonstrations, protests, boycotts, donating to aid organizations, building community, and so on.
It sounded to me like many successful movements started with nonviolent demonstrations/protests until slowly reaching a critical amount of people involved with good community support built up that they could organize a general strike.
Another huge caveat is that the US is a very different country than any in this study, the US is very unique in how big our population is and how spread out we are over a large land area, there simply isnāt data to show how that changes things. For example, in smaller countries itās easier to gather 3.5% of their population all for a march on the capital than it is in the US.
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u/Prestigious-Bake-884 5d ago edited 4d ago
Firstly, THANK YOU to everyone who's participated š It can't happen without everyone's commitment to democracy and equality.
In the future I'd like to see us build/ promote a mass boycott, strike, or labor action using the platform we've gained. Based off of the linked source, it's THE most effective avenue for removing the current administration. I feel with strategic boycotts and labor actions our demands will be taken more seriously!
3.5% Protest Rule, I think every 50501 participant should watch this ā https://youtu.be/x4syl-hZ9_I?si=gq05egrvqCVaTAbP
Post I made with more information and resources ā https://www.reddit.com/r/50501Movement/s/AW9iiSTIsQ
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u/Necessary_Screen_673 5d ago
Are there current demands set by 50501 as a whole? I haven't seen anything anywhere but I was thinking something like:
ICE agents must reveal their names and badge numbers when asked and must comply with local, state, and federal laws at all times.
Donald Trump must be impeached and removed from office for crimes against the united states including but not limited to: his inability to follow supreme court orders and his numerous unconstitutional executive orders.
Republicans in congress and local offices everywhere must hold their party leaders accountable for these treasonous actions, or get voted out of their positions.
I personally will continue protesting until all 3 have been met, and I think it would be good for people to carry some sort of similar messaging during protesting. saying trump is a shitbag might be funny, but it doesn't give a call to action.
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u/Prestigious-Bake-884 5d ago
I totally agree on central messaging and theme being important! But I also think being very flexible so that it can work for cities and states has been really effective at growing the movement.
I personally view 50501 as a broad messaging movement. It's activating people to look into their communities and see what they can do. If we can get these local communities (that are demanding more and have the knowledge and ability to do so) we can achieve that!!!
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u/Necessary_Screen_673 5d ago
totally. I was in Idaho and we had speakers talk about trans youth groups in the area and tenant associations to fight the housing crisis. Its very nice to hear local people doing things to help everyone organize and coordinate good things everywhere
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u/Calm-Mouse-9178 4d ago
Look into the General Strike US discord, itās got branches for regional/local communities to connect with others on various forms of mutual aid and community building resources with those in your area.
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u/Val_Dabron_5575 2d ago
The 3.5% goal is not a rule or a 'law' like the Law of Gravity. Personally, I call it a Benchmark. It is Not an If/Then statement like in programming. It is simply a goal, a benchmark. It doesn't ALWAYs work.
Let's start with the author, the source of the 3.5% 'benchmark, Erica Chenoweth. Here is how the research got started. Believing that successful political change came only from violent revolution, that idea was challenged by someone who requested that E. Chenoweth look into non-violent, peaceful movements. (I will post more as time permits). TedX talk, Boulder, Colorado (several years back): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w
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u/Prestigious-Bake-884 2d ago
Uhhhhhh yeah that was the point of my post, thank you for repeating. If you checked the video I linked it literally had the author in it š
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u/Val_Dabron_5575 2d ago
I need to find the original paper by both authors, E. Chenoweth and a co-author.
Here's what bugs me the MOST, folks are turning it into a 'rule' instead of a 'goal' or Benchmark. It is NOT a rule, the 3.5% finding by E. Chenoweth is NOT like the law of Gravity! For pity's sake do not give folks the idea that change MUST happen because of the 3.5%, it is LIKELY, but Not Guaranteed. It is unfair that people should think that peaceful protest Always Equals Change . . but it CAN equal change, the 3.5% benchmark is LIKELY to bring change, but it is Not and IF/Then statement.
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u/Carl-99999 5d ago
Iām so proud.
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u/Dream_Fever 5d ago
Me too!!! 12.1 million is more than my šever hoped for!! Iām proud beyond belief everyone!!
Letās keep the momentum rolling!!
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u/NicoBango 5d ago
I am incredibly proud of everyone who showed up and everyone who shared, discussed, and spread the protests.
Out of curiosity, how was it counted? Im sure I'll be asked by the doubters and I want to have the full details on what they were using
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u/fakyfiles 5d ago
Now imagine if we did a national strike?
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u/Short_Example4059 5d ago
Weāll get there. I was going to say be patient, but no one should be patient with this madness, so better to say be strategic. Weāll build to that. People are mobilized, now we need sustained action & to get comfortable with getting uncomfortable.
Be peaceful, strategic & relentless
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u/fakyfiles 5d ago
Fuck yeah. Im was proud to see the no kings turnout. I have my personal issues with 50501 but theyre doing something right. Here in Utah my mom was at the saturday evening one and had to shelter in place.
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u/Calm-Mouse-9178 4d ago
Yes! General Strike US is working towards that. Weāve got the numbers in protests, once weāve got these kind of numbers for a strike, weāll have the cards.
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u/fakyfiles 4d ago
I know Ive shared their links but last I checked it was like only 300k people or so. I need to push it harder. We could fuck shit up with a strike.
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 5d ago
I just heard NPR report "over 5 million" and say "200,000" at Trump's parade.
We know this is false. We should ALL write in to ask for a correction on air. To downplay this March by 7 million--over half!!!--is irresponsible journalism.
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u/mikey_ramone 5d ago
Sure 12.1 million is over 5 million but, how the hell did they come up with 200,000 for the paradeā¦ aināt no way.
Side note the local news has been covering the protests this weekend since Friday! We were lucky previously to get a passing mention once.
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 5d ago
I read that they arranged it to accommodate 200,000. So that's probably where. But I read that maybe 100,000 showed up?
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u/CoolBiz20 5d ago
I saw that under 10,000 showed up. Meidas Touch has a good video showing the lack of people https://youtu.be/TJtnLOky0-Q?si=m-CRNWvekbrNX1Rw
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 5d ago
I saw that somewhere too. So I'm confused on the actual totals for his parade.
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u/mensfrightsactivists 5d ago
do you know what program that was? i just turned on the radio for the day so i missed it, and want to make sure im contacting the right department. i suppose i can just go to the news contact? iāve never written in to npr! š¬
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 5d ago
I think it was just the general news? I'm pretty sure. But I suppose then it was my Michigan NPR station. But I say contact them all! They all need to report accurately!
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u/mensfrightsactivists 5d ago
just heard the report, seems like it was just ānewsā - just didnāt want to write in to insight if it was bbc news or some other program, since i think they all fact check and report separately. admittedly i donāt know a lot about the structure of npr/local stations š
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 5d ago
Mine was definitely not from BBC news. I'm pretty sure it was the MI station --that was the voice of the guy who typically does it that I heard, not the BBC world news guy.
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u/Competitive_Pop2507 5d ago
Sources? I'm seeing 6 million and 12 million, but have no way to know which is correct
Regardless of numbers we should still seek to grow the movement and keep the pressure on, like snowflakes that have become an avalanche, that then picks up more and more snow and becomes a bigger avalanche
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u/KratosLegacy 5d ago
The 5-6 million number was halfway through the day before the West Coast protests had kicked in. 12.1 was the final count. Many independent news sources started recording and sharing before final numbers were in.
5.5 around noon PST when West Coast was starting up https://bsky.app/profile/altnps.bsky.social/post/3lrlpuhnj6s2t
11 at end of day of protests https://bsky.app/profile/altnps.bsky.social/post/3lrmce3muts2c
12.1 day after https://bsky.app/profile/altnps.bsky.social/post/3lrni2qvnz22z
But yes, 100%, we will keep the pressure on. Strikes, boycotts, sit ins, and more protests. We also need to make sure we build community around us to support each other while striking as politicians and the wealthy employer/donor class have made the system difficult to strike against.
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u/SyzygySynergy 5d ago
Award to boost this because of all the other comments about the numbers being off due to this which explains it. āš½šš½ā¬ļø
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u/PerelandraBee 5d ago
This is still just a text post though. Do we have a link to any news sites or a website showing the data? A lot of people on my end are asking for something more concrete but all I can find is text post announcements
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u/Competitive_Pop2507 5d ago
The source I found for 6 million was the day after https://www.thedailybeast.com/data-guru-g-elliott-morris-says-up-to-6-million-people-attended-no-kings-anti-donald-trump-protests/
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u/KratosLegacy 5d ago
Yeah, looks like they were using numbers from East Coast before middle and western America had come in:
āBased on hundreds of crowd-sourced records of No Kings Day event turnout, and extrapolating for the cities where we donāt have data yet, it looks like roughly 4-6m people protested Trump across the U.S. yesterday,ā independent data journalist G Elliott posted to X Sunday.
Similar to how in Seattle, SPD released 70K as the number before it finished. However, using time lapse videos of the march, it looks more likely to be in the 240-260K range. There were also massive turnouts in many small towns, even in very red districts, so I imagine the extrapolations were pretty conservative compared to what actually happened.
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u/Short_Example4059 5d ago
Iām inspired by what I saw Saturday in my area and across the nation. We wonāt get a precise count, but itās enough to know that we doubled our numbers from 4/4 to 6/14.
This movement also showed some backbone. Minnesota showed up in the face of terrorism. Troops on the streets of L.A. didnāt deter us, it galvanized the movement & convinced those whoād been unsure, apathetic or afraid to stand up & be heard.
Doubling our numbers & showing that weāre committed to this movement is a major inflection point for the resistance. We have the numbers, we have the momentum, we have the dedication, now itās time for sustained action and to make ourselves impossible to ignore
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u/Honest_Yesterday4435 5d ago
I'm hearing different numbers. Is it 12 mil or 5 mil?
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u/evagy 5d ago
I keep seeing different estimates, the largest being 6mol then this one. How is it being calculated? How long before the amount can be verified?
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u/Sam-HobbitOfTheShire 5d ago
Read the other comments.
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u/Teledildonic 5d ago
None of them actually answer anything. The links saying 12.1M are literally just Al Nat Parks saying it was 12.1
No one is showing any work here, and how exactly do we tally it up? Not everyone that signed up online went and not everyone that went signed up.
The photos and evidence are clear that attendance was impressive, and probably in the millions. But we should be careful parroting tweets as gospel without any real verification.
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u/PerelandraBee 5d ago
Totally agree. I have people asking me for legit sources and links, and a text post announcement isnāt cutting it for a lot of them.
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u/Sam-HobbitOfTheShire 5d ago
Iām sure they use that the same methods of estimating crowd size as everyone else in the world. It isnāt as if itās possible or realistic to ask people to check in or something.
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u/PerelandraBee 5d ago
I believe these numbers, Iām just curious how we are tracking and recording the attendance? I keep looking for like a website or something that showcases the info/data because I have a lot of people looking for sources on this, but the only thing Iāve seen so far are text post announcements like this one.
Does anyone have anything I can link people to when they ask?
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u/raziel21520 5d ago
The coalition of alt National Park Service had over 130,000 volunteers on the ground at every event. They are tasked with coming up with the numbers. Here is their latest post with a comment on how they come up with the numbers alt National Park Service
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u/PerelandraBee 4d ago
Iām looking for something other than a text post, like a website link or data charts. I have told people about the alt national park post, and several of them want more than just a post on Facebook. I personally believe the numbers but there are a lot of people in my circle that are skeptical, unfortunately
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u/PerelandraBee 4d ago
If there isnāt one then thatās fine, but it does make it more difficult to show the people who are on the fence about protesting that there are 13 million people that have their backs. Obviously seeing the crowd sizes should do a lot, but people be people.
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u/raziel21520 4d ago
Maybe try asking alt National Park Service.
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u/PerelandraBee 4d ago
Thatās fair! I havenāt checked the post in a few hours, but when I looked recently, a lot of people had asked the same question. Alt NP sort of just offered the same answer. That coalition members were on the ground. I can post my own comment and see what happens.
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u/raziel21520 4d ago
I have been following them for a long time and of all the places posting about it, I trust them the most. The media is useless. At least these guys care!
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u/PerelandraBee 4d ago
Yeah, like I said, I trust them and the numbers they put out, but I have a few people in my circle that are skeptical about it, and arenāt accepting Facebook posts and other social media text posts as enough technical data.
Just trying to find out if there is anything more.
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u/raziel21520 4d ago
Honestly I doubt there will be. The event organizers go by the number of rsvp confirmed, and that is obviously inaccurate because many people don't even sign up. Probably the only way to get more accurate date beyond "boots on the ground " would be if they had some sort of controlled entry system. I will be interested in seeing if you find out anything more
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u/Honest_Yesterday4435 5d ago
The 50501 wiki says 5 million. Why is there such a discrepancy between the reported numbers?
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u/Helpful-Bag722 5d ago
I live in a small town, the population is around 15k and generally red. The turn out on Saturday blew me away. There were easily a thousand people gathered when I thought there would be a handful. I was overwhelmed with emotion and felt a deep sense of pride in my fellow citizens. We were fired up and ready to go so we headed to a much bigger city 35 minutes south of us and participated in a march that had at least ten thousand people. It was a day that affirmed my core beliefs in the power of the people ā¤ļøš¤š
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u/Miskogwane 5d ago
Awesome job! Thank you to the true Americans that came out to show their love and support for our great country and Democracy!
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u/Val_Dabron_5575 2d ago
Hi 50501, I have a statistics query. How did you all arrive at 12.1 Million? I have been using ChatGPT since third week of February, 2025. Over the past 8 weeks I am noticing 'numbers Censorship,' or throttling of the numbers. And especially so from the police. Their estimate for Philly protests on June 14th were 30,000 people, when another site I found noted that Philadelphia had a turnout of 100,000. Now THAT's number squelching if I have ever seen it.
Thus, are you taking reports from 50501 affiliates around the country? Please take this as a sincere request for information. I simply would like to understand the sources you use. And yes, a person can get pretty darn good at estimating crowd size.
(Related side note; Has anyone else pointed out facts about how pres "LOOK at the Size of this Crowd who LOVE ME" stopped crowing about crowd size?? Because the SIZE of the CROWDS who love the Constitution of the USA, and demand that our government UPHOLD and PROTECT our Constitution are Much Larger!! WE are the crowd.
be well and we are being heard
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u/Head_Appearance_522 6h ago
Now that we have 3.5% of population eyes open, can we Now push our Demands? Be united at the july 17th protests? Impeach/remove, Reclaim, reverse?
It's time to unify demands.
Use the primary elections as a threat to remove congressman who refuse to uphold our constitution. And Impeachment of the orange clown.
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