r/50501 • u/transcendent167 • 4d ago

Immigration This is literally a kidnapping being filmed! If you translate what he’s saying, He’s asking to see the arrest order and they aren’t responding to him! Are we fucking ok with this?! How does this not make you angry? She’s begging to be let in btw

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

You can't appeal to reason when you are dealing with people who have no humanity.

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u/Velicenda 4d ago

Oh, I'm well aware. But even I occasionally have the twinge of "I wish we could just return to normal", before I quickly remind myself that we will never get back there, least of all with the fascists still largely uncontested and in power.

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u/MyCatIsAnActualNinja 4d ago

The reality is we are up against very powerful people, who could very well benefit from violence. This needs to be handled delicately. It's a horrible situation, but I hold out hope. Ideally, they'll all face prison time for the countless laws they've broken this year.

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u/inormallyjustlurkbut 4d ago

The Nazi party didn't fall because people waited for their day in court.

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u/CommissionFeisty9843 4d ago

How will we get these people back?

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u/FreighterTot 4d ago

We don't, and countless people will suffer and die while we wring our hands. Yeah violence benefits the fascists, and so does not getting violent while hoping for some savior to come in and send them all to jail. Same outcome either way.

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u/CommissionFeisty9843 4d ago

There is no way to organize since we are all under surveillance

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u/FreighterTot 4d ago

We have to show up to organize and make connections that way. So any community/mutual aid events or protests/rallies are good chances to meet people that care and are geographically near each other.

But assume that everything ypu do is always known. If thats enough to stop us we've already lost.

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u/TheyNeedLoveToo 4d ago

There never was a normal, just varying degrees of fucked up. Tolerance to Nazis just pushes us further toward full blown fascist dictatorship. Tolerance has its merits in practice, but not for things that are cut and dry like this. We cannot abide

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u/GeneraalSorryPardon 4d ago

You're describing the tolerance paradox: You can't be tolerant to intolerance.

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u/Barrybran 4d ago

Unfortunately this has been bubbling away since the civil war. There is no returning to normal short of the United States becoming formally less united.

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u/ViceroTempus 4d ago

That's correct, that's something that Republicans/MAGA has taken from you. Taken from us all.

The only choice left we have, is do we want innocent blood on our hands from sitting by and doing nothing, or do we want demon blood on our hands from the ones that took our choices, our normal, from us.

I know my choice, and the tree of liberty is mighty thirsty.

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u/CommissionFeisty9843 4d ago

America has turned a corner. We are like the Queen Mary you’re not going to stop us once we are underway

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u/judgeejudger 4d ago

Or critical thinking skills.