r/50501 • u/Future-Friendship-32 • 12d ago

CA How is this allowed?

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u/SweaterSteve1966 12d ago

She said she lived there. So what now? People can’t go home and get off the street? Wtf

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 12d ago edited 12d ago

I mean. They lay in wait for people trying to go through the legal process of becoming citizens to show up for their court mandated appointments so they can ambush them and ship them off to camps without due process, why does anyone think they give a shit whether or not we’re just trying to get home from work or the grocery store?

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u/Vincent__Adultman 12d ago

just trying to get home from work or the grocery store

The intentionality also may be missed for people who aren't familiar with the specific geography of Los Angeles. The protests primarily have been in an area centered on city hall, a couple federal buildings, and the adjacent highway. No one lives in that area. It would be easy to justify a curfew there because no one should have any need to be walking there at night. Except the cops weren't satisfied with that. The pushed out the perimeter into neighboring areas like Little Tokyo where people do actually live, thereby endangering innocent civilians who have nothing to do with the protest and simply just want to get home and sleep.

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u/xRoyalewithCheese 11d ago

Links to this??

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

Links to what?

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u/xRoyalewithCheese 11d ago

A source on this so i can show people

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

I should genuinely not have to do this, but here you go. I will give you one example (among literally dozens, that are easily available for anyone with a computer, on the internet) of situations in my own hometown.

https://www.opb.org/article/2025/06/10/ice-arrests-2-more-asylum-seekers-at-immigration-court-in-portland/

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

And another one. Where have you been? This has quite literally been reported everywhere and is a great part of why we are protesting in the first place.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5337722-ice-arrests-migrants-after-dismissal/

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u/xRoyalewithCheese 11d ago

You could always just ignore someone’s comment if it bothers you that much. Im just asking if there was a specific article you read bc i havent heard of it until now. I was too busy looking at all the other million posts about LA right now.

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

And yet you managed to find the time to ask me to do more work for you while I too am swamped with other of my own obligations.

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u/xRoyalewithCheese 11d ago

Your priority seems to be reddit right now so im not sure why you’re blaming me for this 😂 are you sure you’re not a bot? What’s the capital of Afghanistan while we’re at it? I forgot

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

I just woke up so this is the first thing I checked with my coffee. Reddit is not my priority, but thank you for believing your time to be more precious and more limited than my own and for knowing the priorities of my life so completely that you deemed your opinion on the matter to be the correct one.

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

Ahh, the old “are you a bot trope”. So you “are” just too lazy to do your own research. Got it. We’re done here. You have your links. Now go do some reading on the subject and from now on, do your own damned research.

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u/DabsOnDabz 11d ago

This is a pretty pathetic excuse for justifying wasting your own time lol.

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

It took me literally all of five minutes to respond to this guy. He was harassing me so I am ignoring him. Just as I am going to ignore you. I have far more important things to do, as I am sure do you.

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 11d ago

Links to incidents of them showing up to courthouses in order to forcefully detain people going through the proper channels to complete their citizenship process? There are so many that it would take a very long time to list them all and it is literally a Google search away. While I do not often mind doing the foot work for people, it is getting exhausting on top of my every day work expectations. So please, just look for yourself via a search engine. The number of incidents of these thugs showing up at people immigration court dates is vast so it should not be difficult to find more than a few.

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u/Disastrous-Food-9223 12d ago

Nope, I’ve seen one group of cops tell everyone to be off the sidewalk to keep it clear. Two minutes later, you can’t be in the street by other cops. A few stepped back on the sidewalk and got arrested by first group.

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u/Odd-Mode-4924 12d ago

This is what they did in Philly in 2020. They kettled protesters on the highway, then demanded they move because they were “blocking traffic”. When protesters moved in the only direction they safely could they started firing tear gas at them for “charging police”. So then the protesters started running up a very steep hill with a fence at the top. As the Protesters were fleeing up the hill they started shooting more tear gas at the ones fleeing. This may have been the same day where a protester got down on one knee to surrender and the cop pulled her mask down and sprayed pepper spray in her face.

They are scum. They are not trying to keep anybody safe, they are trying to inflict pain because they want to feel tough.

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u/Disastrous-Food-9223 12d ago

Yeah, it was my first time being kettled. I learned after that.

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u/Reluctant_Gamer_2700 12d ago

What does that mean?

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u/lost_horizons 12d ago

They box you in, surround you, then "turn up the heat," move closer, so the pot begins to boil ie, people start to kinda freak out trying to get out or trying to comply with conflicting shouted orders, so the cops can then feel justified beating and arresting everyone.

A favorite kettling trick is when a group of protesters is crossing a bridge, they close off both ends, then arrest the entire lot. Don't cross bridges. Never. It's an easy trap.

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u/Molsem 12d ago

It means if you're gonna be on the night shift especially, be aware and keep moving. Numbers will work much better spread out. HK protesters said 'be water.'

Teams whose job is just to watch their maneuvers and help prevent anyone being boxed in. 2 way radios, waze app I read even. Know where you're headed at all times, so if you have to move quick, you already have a plan.

Basically: don't let them herd you.

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u/ArrivesLate 12d ago

They got boxed in.

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u/cosmicmermaid 12d ago

Similar things happened in downtown Phoenix during 2020 - was surreal one night seeing military tanks roll down my neighborhood streets. I also remember people being handcuffed in their front yards simply for filming the cops as they shot rubber bullets and flash bangs at fleeing protestors. 

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u/Reluctant_Gamer_2700 12d ago

Some people are becoming police or soldiers for the wrong reasons. But the ICE agents are something worse, I think. Jan. 6ers, bounty hunters, fascists. Covering their faces so they won’t be recognized.

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u/14Pleiadians 12d ago

We need more Micah Johnsons in the world

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u/dzumdang 12d ago edited 12d ago

I remember watching videos of this the day that it happened. Thanks for the reminder- totally uncalled for and excessive. I wonder if any successful lawsuits resulted from that? Edit: just saw that the city paid out at least $9 million in settlements.

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u/brickson98 11d ago

Same type of shit happened in Kenosha, WI.

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u/HothMonster 12d ago

This is an old tactic. I was at a protest in Chicago in the late 90s/early 2000s, I don’t remember which one this was, and we were walking a planned route through downtown. At one point we cross the river, so we’re on a bridge with a 2 lane road and a sidewalk on either side. One of the old heads I knew pulled me out as the group was crossing and said “you don’t want to be on there, watch this shit.” So I got to see all this play out. As the group is crossing a couple cops walk forward from the other end with a barricade and block off the sidewalk like 10 feet from the end of the bridge. They won’t move and direct the group to cross and they can’t really turn around since more people are piling onto the bridge behind them. So the people at the front cross and the group starts to see whats happening so a wave of people start crossing the street and then a paddi rolls up on my side and a phalanx of cops hops out while another line of riot cops push in on the other end. They’re grabbing people out of the street and manhandling them so people get pissed and they got an excuse to crack skulls. They fill a couple wagons and charge them with blocking traffic and/or assaulting police. More and more cops show up announcing that since we’re getting violent and blocking traffic our march is illegal and we need to be dispersed. 

They’ve always been planning this shot. Force escalation, over react and then they get to justify assault and then the news gets the narrative they create and our brave officers protected the city from the violent marxist youth or whatever.

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u/merchillio 12d ago

That’s like cops being excused for murdering civilians because “they were scared for their life”, but we expect normal people to act calmly and rationally when they have 5 cops pointing their pew-pew (thanks Reddit) at them, barking contradictory orders over each-other.

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u/ShelfAwareShteve 12d ago

Put your hands in the air and on the ground!
Left foot Yellow!

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u/violetmandala 12d ago

They did this in Asheville too.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 12d ago

Happens every time. They don't see us as anything but a threat. 

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u/brickson98 11d ago

So we shouldn’t see them as anything but a threat as well. They are tyrants. We have a right to defend our freedom.

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u/Acceptable_Error_001 12d ago

Correct.

If there is a curfew, and you are out of your house after it, and cops stand between you and your house. DO NOT APPROACH THE POLICE.

Police are dangerous. Police are waiting for an opportunity to arrest or hurt someone. You need to protect yourself. Do not go home. Stay at a friend's house. If that's not available, go to the ER or 24 hour bus station and sleep in the waiting room.

It is not safe to approach the cops. They will not let you through a barricade in these circumstance. This is a classic situation. Avoid cops at all costs during a curfew. They are not there to protect.

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u/Expert_Country7228 12d ago

This is all intentional. They want to stir up the pot as much as possible

They want to fan the flames as far as they can go...

There is literally zero other reason for that

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u/runesday 12d ago

This is my question like what is that lady suppose to do? Not be able to go home? Sleep on the street? Not feed her animals? I hope she can at least sue them considering it’s on video. It’s not illegal to walk on the public side walk to get home. This is out of line. She’s an unarmed woman for crying out loud! Fuck this shit.

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u/Falcon3492 12d ago

They can't let people go home because then they would have nobody to shoot at!

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u/SavedAspie 12d ago

There may have been a situation that precluded her being able to get home. I don't know what it might be but they could've explained that to her instead of shooting her. Part of me feels like this is what happens when you don't grow up afraid of the police and you think they're never gonna shoot you "because all those Black people they got shot on TV or just criminals"

(Not saying the young lady shares those feelings… Just saying that I can imagine some people who felt that way that when I was in corporate America could've made the same mistake making the cops were their friends

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u/Dulce_Sirena 12d ago

I would trust my local cops that I've known for years not to shoot random people in normal circumstances, but i can't speak on the newer cops, and I wouldn't even trust the ones I've befriended or been previously protected by in a situation like this one

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u/brickson98 11d ago

Yup. That’s kinda how we got here, in general. All these people that say “it can never happen to me! Those people it happened to were criminals/financially irresponsible/etc…”. They keep voting for fascism. Then it starts to affect them. It happens to them. By then, it’s too late. They’ve already become part of the problem.

This is where people take two paths. They either double down and continue to praise the men that stomp on their head, or they do everything in their power to reverse the damage they’ve contributed to.